sdrawkcab321 Posted July 22, 2023 Share Posted July 22, 2023 3 hours ago, candyman93 said: Just looking at the offense. With the exception of Teller and DPJ, all of our starters were either 1st or 2nd round picks. Same deal with the secondary. Because Berry can’t draft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candyman93 Posted July 22, 2023 Author Share Posted July 22, 2023 3 hours ago, sdrawkcab321 said: Because Berry can’t draft If he hits on free agency (including trades) then I won’t care. Very realistic chance Elijah Moore and Zadarious Smith pan out. So I won’t care about the draft picks (but Callahan will work magic on Jones and Wypler). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdrawkcab321 Posted July 22, 2023 Share Posted July 22, 2023 1 hour ago, candyman93 said: If he hits on free agency (including trades) then I won’t care. Very realistic chance Elijah Moore and Zadarious Smith pan out. So I won’t care about the draft picks (but Callahan will work magic on Jones and Wypler). Moore yes. Z looked done halfway though last year. I don’t expect much out of him this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candyman93 Posted July 22, 2023 Author Share Posted July 22, 2023 Really curious why they chose this spot this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdrawkcab321 Posted July 22, 2023 Share Posted July 22, 2023 15 minutes ago, candyman93 said: Really curious why they chose this spot this year. Limited amount of clubs and hookers 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candyman93 Posted July 23, 2023 Author Share Posted July 23, 2023 4 hours ago, sdrawkcab321 said: Limited amount of clubs and hookers It’s got a casino though. …..So we’ll hear some fun stories in about 8 months when guys are getting suspended Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candyman93 Posted July 23, 2023 Author Share Posted July 23, 2023 (edited) Quote HC Stefanski on Browns remote West Virginia training camp location: “We’re landlocked here,” Stefanski said. “We’re in the middle of nowhere by design, so it forces you to be around your teammates.” I get it. The Chiefs do almost the exact same thing every year. They just go to some no name college dorm type of area instead, then completely lock down. Patriots and Saints (with Sean Payton) used to go to Greenbrier as well. https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/kevin-stefanski-browns-put-training-camp-in-the-middle-of-nowhere-by-design Edited July 23, 2023 by candyman93 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candyman93 Posted July 23, 2023 Author Share Posted July 23, 2023 NFL RBs just are not important anymore. They even held zoom meeting talking about it. Nick is an all time great Browns player, but I’ll be shocked if he’s here in 2025. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawgpoun8017 Posted July 23, 2023 Share Posted July 23, 2023 10 minutes ago, candyman93 said: NFL RBs just are not important anymore. They even held zoom meeting talking about it. Nick is an all time great Browns player, but I’ll be shocked if he’s here in 2025. Unfortunately the rules of the NFL have just drastically decreased the value of the rb position 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted July 23, 2023 Share Posted July 23, 2023 34 minutes ago, Dawgpoun8017 said: Unfortunately the rules of the NFL have just drastically decreased the value of the rb position So did the NFLPA to be honest. They pushed for rookie contracts and as a result completely ate their running backs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwibrown Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 10 hours ago, MWil23 said: So did the NFLPA to be honest. They pushed for rookie contracts and as a result completely ate their running backs. Can ypu expand on that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 1 hour ago, Kiwibrown said: Can ypu expand on that? Yeah, after rookie draft picks were resetting the market and guys who never played a snap were the highest paid players, the NFLPA pushed for the rookie contract setup we have now. I understand why, but it also screwed running backs drafted high because rarely does that position get a second contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 28 minutes ago, MWil23 said: Yeah, after rookie draft picks were resetting the market and guys who never played a snap were the highest paid players, the NFLPA pushed for the rookie contract setup we have now. I understand why, but it also screwed running backs drafted high because rarely does that position get a second contract. https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidlariviere/2012/07/04/nfl-rookie-contracts-show-owners-were-the-winners-in-cba/amp/ Good read from 11 years ago when it was implemented. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie man Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 19 hours ago, MWil23 said: So did the NFLPA to be honest. They pushed for rookie contracts and as a result completely ate their running backs. I think what could help players who classifying as running backs should have a standard 3 year deal instead and first rounders a 4 year deal with the team option. Allow RBs to make it to Free Agency sooner so they have more tread and while they can still get paid. It worked perfect for Chubb because he was on a 4 year deal and got the 3 year extension. But first rounders with that 5th year option and franchise tag you can get 6 years of production without having a do a long term deal. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 14 minutes ago, brownie man said: It worked perfect for Chubb because he was on a 4 year deal and got the 3 year extension. But first rounders with that 5th year option and franchise tag you can get 6 years of production without having a do a long term deal. But it didn’t work well because he was paid a lot less having been a 2nd as opposed to if he was a first, so he won some on the back end and lost big time on the front end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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