Daniel Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 1 minute ago, squire12 said: the wording is that you do not believe that person. You don't know they are lying at that point in the game (unless you have factual information that could be presented as otherwise....but you also do not know the information that they have, so just because some information conflicts with what you have, does not mean the other player is lying). You not believing what someone is stating puts the focus on your mindset, not theirs. I don't know about that. There's a big difference in "I don't believe" someone, and "I think/know/have good reason to believe this person is intentionally telling a falsehood." I'm probably just gonna stick to whatever, since Counselor is retiring anyway. If anyone gets triggered, I'll change my language for them, but I don't want to just use soft ambiguous language. That doesn't work in all scenarios. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 8 minutes ago, Daniel said: I don't know about that. There's a big difference in "I don't believe" someone, and "I think/know/have good reason to believe this person is intentionally telling a falsehood." I'm probably just gonna stick to whatever, since Counselor is retiring anyway. If anyone gets triggered, I'll change my language for them, but I don't want to just use soft ambiguous language. That doesn't work in all scenarios. I have reason to believe that you are being less than forthcoming and/or truthful. @Counselor thoughts? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOUCAN Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 This is a good postgame. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 I am out of footballs but I fully support and appreciate this delightfully wholesome conversation about how to accuse someone of scum without calling them a liar. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoundrel Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 20 minutes ago, Daniel said: I don't know about that. There's a big difference in "I don't believe" someone, and "I think/know/have good reason to believe this person is intentionally telling a falsehood." I'm probably just gonna stick to whatever, since Counselor is retiring anyway. If anyone gets triggered, I'll change my language for them, but I don't want to just use soft ambiguous language. That doesn't work in all scenarios. It’s nice of you to be accommodating Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoundrel Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 11 minutes ago, MWil23 said: I have reason to believe that you are being less than forthcoming and/or truthful. @Counselor thoughts? I like this. When I first read this I thought you were talking about you didn’t believe it triggered me lmfao 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOUCAN Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 Inb4 Swag comes in and calls us all lame Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoundrel Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 Just now, JoshstraDaymus said: Inb4 Swag comes in and calls us all lame I’m fine with that L word Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 1 minute ago, Counselor said: It’s nice of you to be accommodating IMO being accommodating is just the baseline of not being an *******. It requires pretty minimal effort. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoundrel Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 2 minutes ago, Daniel said: IMO being accommodating is just the baseline of not being an *******. It requires pretty minimal effort. Okay thank you for going out of your way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 39 minutes ago, Daniel said: IMO being accommodating is just the baseline of not being an *******. It requires pretty minimal effort. Teacher here. Can confirm. That said, the amount of people that can't/refuse to do this is staggering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squire12 Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 1 hour ago, Daniel said: I don't know about that. There's a big difference in "I don't believe" someone, and "I think/know/have good reason to believe this person is intentionally telling a falsehood." That is just it. you think/know/have good reason to believe the person is telling a falsehood.....thus you don't believe them. You don't know that they are lying unless you have all the information that they have and are intentionally telling a falsehood. since it is very unlikely you will have seen someone else's PM on move results, wincon, etc it still comes down to you not believing them. 1 hour ago, Daniel said: I'm probably just gonna stick to whatever, since Counselor is retiring anyway. If anyone gets triggered, I'll change my language for them, but I don't want to just use soft ambiguous language. That doesn't work in all scenarios. We have been down this road before and it ends up requiring multiple days/a week between games. There is a reason to try to adjust BEFORE someone gets triggered. Waiting until after does not end well based on recent history 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwAg Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 The rules say I can say liar, so I am going to continue to play by the rules. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwAg Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 58 minutes ago, JoshstraDaymus said: Inb4 Swag comes in and calls us all lame That was the lamest ******* discussion I’ve ever seen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwAg Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 Especially since these proposed solutions are what I say constantly. I might say “lying” on occasion, but more often I say “I don’t believe you,” or parody what is unbelievable, and I still receive the “I’m telling the truth!” responses from all of you. Thumbs down on the lot of ya. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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