squire12 Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 Just now, MWil23 said: Considering the amount of watchers/trackers/whatever in this game, claiming those visits that can be potentially verified would be an extremely unlikely play here. Basically everyone he claimed can verify it, and he came out of the gates with it/without delaying. he also has the nice element of being "roleblocked" N1 and N3. Night 3 when there was no kill?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 7 minutes ago, Ragnarok said: You...could not convince me to vote swoosh. I meant Shady Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 9 minutes ago, squire12 said: Mwil likes to push some things and expectations for himself and not other players. Part of this game is trying to convince people to seeing things from your POV (or I suppose outright manipulate and deceive if you're scum, in the sense of "you're" being speaking in a universal generality). I don't know how everyone else processes and thinks, but I know how I do (most of the time anyway). I'll do my best to explain why I'm not skeptical of Forge below. 9 minutes ago, squire12 said: Mwil: people need to be skeptical of claims and not believe them fully Correct, at least to a point. I'm not sure that I FULLY believe Forge, but the risk/reward for him lying about his claims and night moves, that could be verified, is enough for me to believe him until shown definitive proof to the contrary. 9 minutes ago, squire12 said: Mwil: how does his claim of doctor fit with being a king It was also more so due to the claim that could potentially be verified by multiple people, with claimed watcher/trackers or at least heavily implied, parlayed with him saying it immediately. 10 minutes ago, squire12 said: he also has the nice element of being "roleblocked" N1 and N3. Night 3 when there was no kill?? Now THIS is a good point. However, it's hard to know which faction(s) have kills in light of these roleblocks, and we know that Swoosh (I got that name right this time) was the killer of SwAg earlier, and Blue killed Orca last night...so I would guess that scum has been blocked from kills multiple nights, assuming there's a faction kill and/or a designated killer in each group...but I'm not sure whether or not that's the case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squire12 Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 On 1/5/2021 at 9:20 AM, MWil23 said: Unless we get more information, it has to be Squire or Swoosh today. I'll vote Squire for now to balance the scales a bit and maybe push for more information instead of a runaway vote today. On 1/5/2021 at 9:22 AM, MWil23 said: I also think his interaction with Orca a few pages ago was very fake. (Last page) On 1/5/2021 at 9:25 AM, MWil23 said: @Ragnarok do you really think that Squire somehow missed this? I don't. He seemed to feign ignorance on it. He said he assumed it was a watcher based upon the information. It's not like him to forget that. On 1/5/2021 at 9:31 AM, MWil23 said: I'll take drunk Town Squire over 90% of Town anyone else. Maybe it's unfair to hold him to such a high standard, but I'm going to. On 1/5/2021 at 8:02 PM, Whicker said: Swoosh was one of Novigrad's most dangerous criminals. He had inherited his father's casinos. fighting ring and brothels - as well as the old man's sadistic tendencies, ruthlessness and lack of scruples. These traits had made the moniker "Whoreson" something of a family heirloom for his powerful criminal clan. Swoosh also took after his father in terms of ambition. He broke the unwritten armistice between Novigrad's various criminal groups and tried to murder the other three leading underworld bosses. Whoreson's audacity had a very specific cause - King Radovid, who had commissioned the gangster's actions. As it turned out. Radovid's plan was for Swoosh to start a gang war in Novigrad. In the resulting chaos. Radovid would take control of the city with ease. In addition to blackmail, extortion, murder and torture, the list of Swoosh's crimes also included trying to harm my good friends. I took this very personally and made the bandit pay for this last sin with his life. Has been killed! He was Cyprian “Whoreson Junior” Wiley [strongman/janitor] (loyal to Redania under King Radovid V) Moves are due at 8:30 CST 28 minutes ago, MWil23 said: I think that I'm happy to vote either him or Swoosh. Could I convince you on Swoosh? Or should I even try? 19 minutes ago, MWil23 said: *Facepalm*. I meant Shady (see above) @Ragnarok you too Yeah, Mwil missing that Swoosh was already eliminated yet gets all excited when other players don't see or take a claim as 100% truthful. There is a lot going wrong in this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squire12 Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 1 minute ago, MWil23 said: Now THIS is a good point. However, it's hard to know which faction(s) have kills in light of these roleblocks, and we know that Swoosh (I got that name right this time) was the killer of SwAg earlier, and Blue killed Orca last night...so I would guess that scum has been blocked from kills multiple nights, assuming there's a faction kill and/or a designated killer in each group...but I'm not sure whether or not that's the case. How do you know Blue killed Orca? Orca also visited Pickle per Ragnarok N4 move..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcb1213 Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 39 minutes ago, MWil23 said: ...what are you doing...???? Did you get confirmation that he was a king? Exactly! ...scum? Is he a king? If not, it's irrelevant Can no one else see that this post is absolutely inherently antitown? Let's vote for the guy who: 1. Claimed unkillable INDY Joat out of the gates 2. Has barely tried to soft claim his character 3. Gave Orca a gift that was used to find red 4. Pushed Malfatron who flipped not green/former green Town/Indy 5. Gave Orca a sabotaged gift that was used to kill him, and then he flipped king He's not town and could be a king. I'll take that over someone who could be town/indy any day. Do you have information he isn't one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 2 minutes ago, squire12 said: Yeah, Mwil missing that Swoosh was already eliminated yet gets all excited when other players don't see or take a claim as 100% truthful. There is a lot going wrong in this ...you do realize that I voted Swoosh not long after that, right? On 1/5/2021 at 11:10 AM, MWil23 said: Ooof Swoosh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squire12 Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 On 1/5/2021 at 10:10 AM, MWil23 said: Ooof Swoosh On 1/5/2021 at 11:18 AM, Whicker said: Daboyle – Matts (82)swoosh – Squire (83)Mwil23 – Squire (85), swoosh (87)TheKillerNacho – Squire (77), swoosh (79)Counselor – swoosh (87)MD4L – Tk3 – bigbadbuff – Forge – Daboyle (77), Buff (82)kingseanjohn – Swoosh (84)Pickle Rick – swoosh (78)Matts4313 – bcb1213 – squire12 – swoosh (77)mission27 – The Orca – squire (78), swoosh (80)Blue – swoosh (80)HoboRocket – BrettFavre004 – swoosh (86)JoshstraDaymus – Ragnarok – swoosh (87)Malfatron – Shady Slim – Vote Count 10 swoosh – squire, Pickle, Orca, Nacho, Blue, KSJ, Brett, Mwil, Counselor, Ragnarok 1 Buff – Forge 1 Matts – Daboyle 1 Squire – swoosh 2 minutes ago, MWil23 said: ...you do realize that I voted Swoosh not long after that, right? @MWil23 Props to you for being the 8th person on that runaway train. Good on you to recognize when your scum teammate is going down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 9 minutes ago, squire12 said: How do you know Blue killed Orca? Orca also visited Pickle per Ragnarok N4 move..... Here's the flavor: On 1/1/2021 at 7:04 PM, Whicker said: Needing answer, Orca turned to a strange man for help, but it ended up costing him his life. I suppose that could fit Pickle. Good point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squire12 Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 Just now, MWil23 said: Here's the flavor: I suppose that could fit Pickle. Good point. yet another possible miss of info by Mwil. This is getting embarrassing 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 4 minutes ago, squire12 said: @MWil23 Props to you for being the 8th person on that runaway train. Good on you to recognize when your scum teammate is going down You seem to have your mind made up. So be it. Typically when I bus a teammate, I'm the first to push it. 1 minute ago, squire12 said: yet another possible miss of info by Mwil. This is getting embarrassing It is possible, but given that Ragnarok seems to think Pickle would be scum/we should go him, parlayed with Orca's comment right before he died, and Blue's liking of that post, it seems unlikely from my POV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squire12 Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 1 minute ago, MWil23 said: You seem to have your mind made up. So be it. Typically when I bus a teammate, I'm the first to push it. I think it is hilarious that you expect things from others in not missing anything in a claim or detail that you also happen to you. 1 minute ago, MWil23 said: It is possible, but given that Ragnarok seems to think Pickle would be scum/we should go him, parlayed with Orca's comment right before he died, and Blue's liking of that post, it seems unlikely from my POV. Yeah, I am thinking that pickle is the new king of that group Pickle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 1 minute ago, squire12 said: I think it is hilarious that you expect things from others in not missing anything in a claim or detail that you also happen to you. I don't expect perfection, and I'm sorry if it's come across that I do. I do my best to be persuasive and convince others, and I'd encourage you and anyone else to do the same. You've made some good points and pointed out areas that I need to improve on as a player, and I intend to do so going forward. However degree of decent/good I am at this game is solely because people like you, Touch, Malf, SwAg, and others have helped me see these deficiencies and rethink things. I apologize if I've been antagonistic about my expectations and opinions, as that has genuinely not been my intention. 1 minute ago, squire12 said: Yeah, I am thinking that pickle is the new king of that group Pickle I'm fine with Pickle as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squire12 Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 2 minutes ago, MWil23 said: I don't expect perfection, and I'm sorry if it's come across that I do. I do my best to be persuasive and convince others, and I'd encourage you and anyone else to do the same. You've made some good points and pointed out areas that I need to improve on as a player, and I intend to do so going forward. However degree of decent/good I am at this game is solely because people like you, Touch, Malf, SwAg, and others have helped me see these deficiencies and rethink things. I apologize if I've been antagonistic about my expectations and opinions, as that has genuinely not been my intention. Great. But you spend a fair part of day 3 pushing me over swoosh based mostly (fmpov) that I "missed" that blue gave Orca a gift. Then finally went to swoosh and today tried to pass that off as some sort of feather in your cap that you did vote for scum when it was like 8 to 2 or something. Players miss stuff all the time. Players don't read posts as closely as they need to and should all the time. There are a handful of players in this game that are just coasting along.... Josh, Mission, Matts, Buff, shady, Brett farve, Daboyle.......and to a lesser extent Md4L, KSJ. 2 minutes ago, MWil23 said: I'm fine with Pickle as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettFavre004 Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 Sorry was MIA for a bit, anyone know what page night 3 was on? I'll have some time today to figure everything out for you guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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