Mossburg Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 Looking back at it, overall the Cavs had a two year window to win a title (that window closed when Durant made the move and they failed to hire a real coach, with the latter maybe not even mattering) and they won once. That's great for any team, especially a team that has never won one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texansfan713 Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 I literally see 7 teams that can beat the cavs in a 7 game playoff series. warriors rockets spurs thunder wolves celtics raptors Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mossburg Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 Just now, Texansfan713 said: I literally see 7 teams that can beat the cavs in a 7 game playoff series. warriors rockets spurs thunder wolves celtics raptors Assuming they carry over their current play into the postseason. They did not do that last year and played much better in the postseason when people doubted them, even though things weren't as bad as this year but worse than the year before. It's all a matter of whether you believe they can do it again when postseason begins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seminoles1 Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 2 minutes ago, Texansfan713 said: I literally see 7 teams that can beat the cavs in a 7 game playoff series. warriors rockets spurs thunder wolves celtics raptors I could easily see the Bucks beating them if Parker acclimates after coming back from injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seminoles1 Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 1 minute ago, Mossburg said: Assuming they carry over their current play into the postseason. They did not do that last year and played much better in the postseason when people doubted them, even though things weren't as bad as this year but worse than the year before. It's all a matter of whether you believe they can do it again when postseason begins. If they carry over their current play then they'd get beat in the 1st round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mossburg Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 Just now, seminoles1 said: If they carry over their current play then they'd get beat in the 1st round. True, but I mean their current play as of the entire season, which is what their record is and is the average of a lot of slumping and some good play in the middle. Their current CURRENT play extrapolated across the season they might not even be a playoff team lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seminoles1 Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 Shabazz Napier's player should make CJ McCollum available. Portland should be quietly shopping him to see what kind of package they could get. They need a jolt and I think everyone would agree Lillard and CJ together aren't going to get them too far in the West. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-ALL-DAY Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 7 minutes ago, seminoles1 said: Shabazz Napier's player should make CJ McCollum available. Portland should be quietly shopping him to see what kind of package they could get. They need a jolt and I think everyone would agree Lillard and CJ together aren't going to get them too far in the West. I'm not ready to say those two can't get them far in the West. With the current roster? Sure, but they need to make some upgrades at SF and PF. Who exactly could they get for CJ that will make them a contender? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 40 minutes ago, seminoles1 said: You aren't trading Shumpert, Thompson, or Smith without getting back bad contracts as well or attaching assets to them. You are stuck with those 3. My point/core principle remains the same though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 34 minutes ago, Mossburg said: Looking back at it, overall the Cavs had a two year window to win a title (that window closed when Durant made the move and they failed to hire a real coach, with the latter maybe not even mattering) and they won once. That's great for any team, especially a team that has never won one. Oh absolutely! I'd go back and do it all again for one title. Almost anyone would. That said, I'd go full firesale mode now and try to rebuild, especially in Cleveland. This isn't a big market/appealing free agent destination, even with the best player on the planet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonanza23 Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 31 minutes ago, Mossburg said: True, but I mean their current play as of the entire season, which is what their record is and is the average of a lot of slumping and some good play in the middle. Their current CURRENT play extrapolated across the season they might not even be a playoff team lol. It’s honestly quite pathetic the way we’re playing defense right now. Literally nobody cares right now including Lebron. It’s almost like we’re seeing the same gave up Lebron we saw in the bahstahn playoff series before he left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seminoles1 Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 39 minutes ago, J-ALL-DAY said: I'm not ready to say those two can't get them far in the West. With the current roster? Sure, but they need to make some upgrades at SF and PF. Who exactly could they get for CJ that will make them a contender? No idea, that's why I said quietly shop and see what's available. Don't trade him just to trade him, but see what could happen. The problem with upgrading those positions is...they don't have any good tradeable assets besides McCollum and Lillard. Maybe Zach Collins + 1st round pick + Evan Turner could get back a solid SF or PF that fits with Lillard-McCollum, but that seems more unlikely. We've seen a bunch of star level players traded in the last year, including some surprises. Kick the tires and see what you could get. If nothing entices them, then keep chugging along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-ALL-DAY Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 1 hour ago, Mossburg said: Looking back at it, overall the Cavs had a two year window to win a title (that window closed when Durant made the move and they failed to hire a real coach, with the latter maybe not even mattering) and they won once. That's great for any team, especially a team that has never won one. And teams like the Cavs that go all in and ignore the future usually have small windows. They rather re-sign veteran players that give them a chance to win now, but eventually those veteran players become useless. They had a good run at it, and still may make the finals with a few tweaks to the roster. What sucks is they gave up on a guy who would have been the future in Kyrie once LeBron left or retired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40Year Pack Fan Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 Don't recall for sure when, but wasn't it the Pistons that played the Cavs tough in the playoffs?.....Seem like two seasons ago... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
11sanchez11 Posted January 31, 2018 Author Share Posted January 31, 2018 4 minutes ago, 40Year Pack Fan said: Don't recall for sure when, but wasn't it the Pistons that played the Cavs tough in the playoffs?.....Seem like two seasons ago... Yeah but I think they still got swept Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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