th87 Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 3 minutes ago, CWood21 said: Does anyone truly believe we're as deprived as talent as Cleveland is even without Rodgers? I mean, anyone? Maybe not that bad... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWood21 Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 Just now, th87 said: Maybe not that bad... So at the end of the day that article is pure click bait. Are the Packers as good as they appear with Rodgers? Probably not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
th87 Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 Just now, CWood21 said: So at the end of the day that article is pure click bait. Are the Packers as good as they appear with Rodgers? Probably not. We'll know definitively soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWood21 Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 5 minutes ago, th87 said: We'll know definitively soon I'm not really sure what that means. Care to explain? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packerraymond Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 7 minutes ago, CWood21 said: I'm not really sure what that means. Care to explain? He'll say our record for the rest of the way will be the indicator. My opinion our record the rest of the way is more indicitive of how good Hundley is. Doesn't matter how talented your roster, QB play rules the NFL. The Browns and 49ers suck because they don't have a QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
th87 Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 8 minutes ago, CWood21 said: I'm not really sure what that means. Care to explain? As the season progresses, we'll know just how far we are from the Browns. At that point, either this article is meaningless clickbait or actually prescient analysis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
packfanfb Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 16 minutes ago, Packerraymond said: He'll say our record for the rest of the way will be the indicator. My opinion our record the rest of the way is more indicitive of how good Hundley is. Doesn't matter how talented your roster, QB play rules the NFL. The Browns and 49ers suck because they don't have a QB. So if we don't win another game all year, just blame Hundley and give MM and co a pass? I've seen this movie before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWood21 Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 16 minutes ago, Packerraymond said: He'll say our record for the rest of the way will be the indicator. My opinion our record the rest of the way is more indicitive of how good Hundley is. Doesn't matter how talented your roster, QB play rules the NFL. The Browns and 49ers suck because they don't have a QB. Even if the Packers go 0-whatever until the end of the season, you're going to have a hard time convincing me that the Packers are Browns bad. One player doesn't make 10+ wins happen, and it's not like everything is happening in a vacuum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packerraymond Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 4 minutes ago, packfanfb said: So if we don't win another game all year, just blame Hundley and give MM and co a pass? I've seen this movie before. We're going to win games, so this "scenario" is fruitless to discuss. However yes, there's no way I would fire McCarthy if the Packers went 4-12. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
packfanfb Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 3 minutes ago, CWood21 said: Even if the Packers go 0-whatever until the end of the season, you're going to have a hard time convincing me that the Packers are Browns bad. One player doesn't make 10+ wins happen, and it's not like everything is happening in a vacuum. I'd argue Rodgers is a 10 win player or pretty close to it. Look at our games so far. We are 4-3. What are we without Rodgers? I'll be generous and say 1-6, let's say Hundley beats the Bears at home. Now with Rodgers rest of the year, most people were thinking what, 12-4, 11-5 at worst, maybe 13-3. So if we finish 3-13, 4-12, 5-11 without Rodgers (from week 1), why cant we say Rodgers was the difference in those games? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packerraymond Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 28 minutes ago, packfanfb said: I'd argue Rodgers is a 10 win player or pretty close to it. Look at our games so far. We are 4-3. What are we without Rodgers? I'll be generous and say 1-6, let's say Hundley beats the Bears at home. Now with Rodgers rest of the year, most people were thinking what, 12-4, 11-5 at worst, maybe 13-3. So if we finish 3-13, 4-12, 5-11 without Rodgers (from week 1), why cant we say Rodgers was the difference in those games? You can't compare a team built for its starting QB and playing with its backup to any team with it's starting QB. With no Rodgers we don't have a 20m at QB with 40+m invested in OTs and WRs. Maybe we resign someone like Hayward/Hyde for the secondary and Lang/Sitton to build a more clock controlled offense. This team is built to be successful with Aaron Rodgers at QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenrik Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 21 minutes ago, Packerraymond said: This team is built to be successful with Aaron Rodgers at QB. Haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacReady Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 Talking about this just makes me sad because I'm pretty sure we'd have beat the Vikings and Saints if we had Rodgers and we'd be the top team in the conference right alongside the Eagles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOnlyThing Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 31 minutes ago, Packerraymond said: This team is built to be successful with Aaron Rodgers at QB. Just not on defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TransientTexan Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 that whistling sound is the point soaring over the P&M crew's heads. units aren't built in a vacuum. 1 salary cap for the whole team, so it's interdependent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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