Tk3 Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 2 hours ago, TheKillerNacho said: This VC and the time immediately afterwards is very interesting Instead of latching onto a Matts line, Josh instead decides to no lynch, and is immediately supported in that vote by TL2. TL2 recants afterwards, voting bucsfan instead Swoosh, ET80, squire then jumps on Josh and things escalate from there This sequence ends with another VC: Interesting to note that nearly everyone on the Josh wagon was previously on the Matts wagon, and that confirmed scum Josh viewed the No Vote wagon as preferable to the Matts one. I think this cements Matts as a likely Josh partner and almost completely vindicate Tk3, swoosh, ET, and squire. TL2 looks a bit worse, rereading this. Top scum candidates... Matts, Pickle, Jason I'm not sure I'm buying the "Josh should have voted Matts, but didn't so Matts is probably scum with him" Last game Josh didn't even place a vote to save himself, you had to do it. If anything, I think Raves was his best bet option, not Matts. If anything I'd say "Josh refused to vote for Raves" 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tk3 Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 Bad vibes on TL also Is he just a new player, townie, who is tunneling? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tk3 Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 Im not buying this Scoundrel movement.. ppl taking an easy route 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swoosh Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 Just now, ET80 said: That's part of it (it's his meta, I get it). Part of it is him flooding the thread with gifs taking away from actual discussion between TL and Nacho. It's a read for now. Curious as to thoughts on it. Certainly fair. My thoughts so far on Scoundrel are neutral. He'd make a push to save Josh regardless, so I can't really use that to make a read. To be determined. With that being said, I do think Scoundrel would be an easy scapegoat for scum to push so I'm watching that. This excludes anyone new to mafia though - those are the reads I'd expect them to have. At the same time, I don't know how anyone could have a town read on him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squire12 Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 17 hours ago, JoshstraDaymus said: Guys take it easy on me I’m going through some stuff right now. Katie made the wrong choice on the Bachelorette. I’m fragile. Self preserving raves vote 17 hours ago, Raves said: I'm just going to put it out there, lynching me is a bad idea. 17 hours ago, Raves said: josh sorry 17 hours ago, bcb1213 said: Vote count Nacho --1--Matts ET - - 1 --Bucs No vote - - 1-, Hokie, Bucs--1-, TL Josh - - 7-nacho, Tk3, swoosh, ET, squire, Orca, Raves Raves - - 4-Jason, Pickle, Josh, Scoundrel 9 to eliminate Day ends at 8 PM east 17 hours ago, JoshstraDaymus said: Let’s go back to nacho lads 5 minutes ago, Tk3 said: I'm not sure I'm buying the "Josh should have voted Matts, but didn't so Matts is probably scum with him" Last game Josh didn't even place a vote to save himself, you had to do it. If anything, I think Raves was his best bet option, not Matts. If anything I'd say "Josh refused to vote for Raves" Josh was already on raves. Why he moved off to someone else is interesting. Was it to set up a mis elimination today if players thought raves was his scummate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Orca Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 2 minutes ago, Tk3 said: Im not buying this Scoundrel movement.. ppl taking an easy route How so? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swoosh Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 5 minutes ago, Tk3 said: Bad vibes on TL also Is he just a new player, townie, who is tunneling? If it was anyone else tunneling on Scoundrel, I'd feel different but TL is very new to mafia. I would expect him to have those reads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squire12 Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 1 minute ago, swoosh said: Certainly fair. My thoughts so far on Scoundrel are neutral. He'd make a push to save Josh regardless, so I can't really use that to make a read. To be determined. With that being said, I do think Scoundrel would be an easy scapegoat for scum to push so I'm watching that. This excludes anyone new to mafia though - those are the reads I'd expect them to have. At the same time, I don't know how anyone could have a town read on him. I have a town lean on scoundrel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TL-TwoWinsAway Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 2 minutes ago, Tk3 said: Im not buying this Scoundrel movement.. ppl taking an easy route But why is it easy? Because he didn't just question the Josh votes, but fought hard to keep people from voting for him, who was discovered to be scum? I mean, if it's easy, it's easy for a reason. Josh voted for Nacho. Nacho voted for Josh, then moved his vote off of Josh at the last second. Nacho has then tried (hard) to pull the heat off of Scoundrel. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tk3 Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 1 minute ago, squire12 said: Josh was already on raves. Why he moved off to someone else is interesting. Was it to set up a mis elimination today if players thought raves was his scummate? I think we're ALL over thinking that.. My whole point was that Nacho's argument isn't a good one IMO I think Josh just moved around looking for something to stick. When there was an exodus off Raves, he went too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tk3 Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 1 minute ago, swoosh said: If it was anyone else tunneling on Scoundrel, I'd feel different but TL is very new to mafia. I would expect him to have those reads. true Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swoosh Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 Just now, squire12 said: I have a town lean on scoundrel. Correction - I should've said a firm town read on him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squire12 Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 1 minute ago, swoosh said: Correction - I should've said a firm town read on him. Ok sybil😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tk3 Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 1 minute ago, TL-TwoWinsAway said: But why is it easy? Because he didn't just question the Josh votes, but fought hard to keep people from voting for him, who was discovered to be scum? I mean, if it's easy, it's easy for a reason. Josh voted for Nacho. Nacho voted for Josh, then moved his vote off of Josh at the last second. Nacho has then tried (hard) to pull the heat off of Scoundrel. Generally speaking... generally speaking this early in the game, scum isn't going to give their game away by all protecting one another. You're never going to "solve the game" by connecting all the D1 dots There will be things here and there, some of them will be real catches, some of them will be nothings Scum usually votes one another early, as a misdirect.. which is why all my spidey senses went off regarding Nacho 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swoosh Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 3 minutes ago, squire12 said: Ok sybil😉 wat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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