BobbyPhil1781 Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 1 minute ago, NYRaider said: My statement was that if Carr crumbles down the stretch, it wouldn't be something out of the norm considering that he started very well the last two seasons and then collapsed down the stretch. I want Carr to play well but he really has folded over the last two years when we were in playoff contention. I wouldn't consider his production "folding" but that's subjective. Did he play worse than the first 10 games? Sure. Is it all on him? Not at all. Our defensive collapse last year was far, far more problematic than Carr's play. Again though, we're still not in that "stretch" per your guidelines. I'm just using what you presented to me here. Everyone has bad games and it happens often when teams go east for early games (factor in a friend and teammate of his ruining his life earlier in the week). You can put a lot of weight on this, I'm choosing not to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBXISBXVSBXVIII Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 (edited) 16 hours ago, Dodo said: Best takeaway you can have is that everyone in the conference is deeply flawed and capable of having a game like this. Just can't help the sick feeling that everything is lining up for KC to come back up and we keep having "good reasons" to slide Double post Edited November 8, 2021 by SBXISBXVSBXVIII Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBXISBXVSBXVIII Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 Just now, SBXISBXVSBXVIII said: Carr has **** the bed twice against two teams the Raider's should have beaten. Don't care about distractions. This shouldn't happen by professional athletes. DO YOUR JOB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 7 minutes ago, BobbyPhil1781 said: I wouldn't consider his production "folding" but that's subjective. Did he play worse than the first 10 games? Sure. Is it all on him? Not at all. Our defensive collapse last year was far, far more problematic than Carr's play. We were 6-4 with the easiest remaining SOS last year and Carr had more turnovers then TD down the stretch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyPhil1781 Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 (edited) 15 minutes ago, NYRaider said: We were 6-4 with the easiest remaining SOS last year and Carr had more turnovers then TD down the stretch. OK, great. I am not arguing he played better than he did the previous portion of the season. Not sure why you're trying to hammer a point home that no one is arguing about. If you want to compare it to the defensive play, we can do that. How many games are you expecting to win when you give up almost 34 PPG? Using your guidelines, again. Edited November 8, 2021 by BobbyPhil1781 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyPhil1781 Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 22 minutes ago, SBXISBXVSBXVIII said: Carr has **** the bed twice against two teams the Raider's should have beaten. Don't care about distractions. This shouldn't happen by professional athletes. DO YOUR JOB. And Josh Allen should've hammered the Jags yesterday. It's the NFL.... **** happens. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 2 minutes ago, BobbyPhil1781 said: OK, great. I am not arguing he played better than he did the previous portion of the season. Not sure why you're trying to hammer a point home that no one is arguing about. If you want to compare it to the defensive play, we can do that. How many games are you expecting to win when you give up almost 34 PPG? Using your guidelines, again. The defense didn't play well but Carr was very below average which led to a lot of turnovers and short drives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCOUGHMAN Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 12 minutes ago, BobbyPhil1781 said: And Josh Allen should've hammered the Jags yesterday. It's the NFL.... **** happens. Josh also isn’t a 7 year vet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 15 minutes ago, BobbyPhil1781 said: And Josh Allen should've hammered the Jags yesterday. It's the NFL.... **** happens. A lot of top QB's struggled yesterday including Dak, Allen, Mahomes, Burrow, and Stafford. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackinBlack Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 Honestly, this was Carrs worst game in a long time. It was pathetically bad. End of first half, id say 50% on this forum couldve hit waller for the TD. Was a brutal miss by Carr which took 4 points away from us. The pick 6, who the hell lobs an out route, that has pick 6 written all over it. The deep ball to Edwards double covered in the endzone was stupid. Just bad ball placement all day. The classic Carr fumble at the end hurt too, Though Jacobs needs to dive on that ball. Hopefully Carr bounces back next week. A win over KC means way more than a win over giants, and I had us 1-1 these next 2 games. Can Carr get back on track 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyPhil1781 Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 1 hour ago, NYRaider said: The defense didn't play well but Carr was very below average which led to a lot of turnovers and short drives. Your word choice here makes me feel like you have an agenda whether you acknowledge it or not. The defense was to the point where we would've been lucky to win a game and they "didn't play well". Carr, and the offense, put us in position to win a few games and they're "below average". Just an observation. I dunno... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyPhil1781 Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 1 hour ago, NCOUGHMAN said: Josh also isn’t a 7 year vet At what point in a QBs career is it ok to have a bad game? You appear to have a tangible threshold so I'm just trying to discover it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyPhil1781 Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 1 hour ago, NYRaider said: A lot of top QB's struggled yesterday including Dak, Allen, Mahomes, Burrow, and Stafford. Thanks for proving my point lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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