MWil23 Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 Fred Warner isn’t even the best defensive player on his own team! Fred Warner is at best the third best player on his own team! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoundrel Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 6 minutes ago, RedGold said: @EaglesPeteC these Lemonades hit the spot! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MD4L Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 Just now, Scoundrel said: Let’s talk about NFL Butkus Award Winner Micah Parsons A special 3 down player. He’s got as much upside as any defensive player in the league. Could be all pro at Edge and Off ball LB. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoundrel Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 Just now, MD4L said: A special 3 down player. He’s got as much upside as any defensive player in the league. Could be all pro at Edge and Off ball LB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 2 minutes ago, Scoundrel said: Let’s talk about NFL Butkus Award Winner Micah Parsons Top 10 NFL defensive player? Or not there yet? @Ragnarok already said Stokes was DROY material so… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rackcs Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 1 minute ago, MWil23 said: Fred Warner isn’t even the best defensive player on his own team! Fred Warner is at best the third best player on his own team! Now this is slander. I can concede Bosa although I think it's close but there's no way he's 3rd best on that defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 Just now, rackcs said: Now this is slander. I can concede Bosa although I think it's close but there's no way he's 3rd best on that defense. I said Team not defense Rack. Deebo is better too and certainly more valuable. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VigilantZombie Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 (edited) 30 minutes ago, MD4L said: @wwhickok called him a run stopping LB. I’ve heard comments saying he’s barely a top ten player at his position. Those are some takes that are wild to me. So in that sense, he’s without question an underrated player within these walls. Top 10 at the position, absolutely. Top 10 overall in the NFL, not remotely. Run stopping was the wrong label, you're right, he is a tackling LB. Not a bad thing but by that I mean, he isn't gonna pressure or rush the QB, he isn't a high turnover guy, he will rarely if ever get a sack, etc. He makes his impact by making tackles beyond the line of scrimmage. He is a very good well rounded linebacker linebacker that I would not remotely describe describe as disruptive Edited February 3, 2022 by wwhickok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoundrel Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 4 minutes ago, MWil23 said: @Ragnarok already said Stokes was DROY material so… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoundrel Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 4 minutes ago, rackcs said: Now this is slander. I can concede Bosa although I think it's close but there's no way he's 3rd best on that defense. 3rd best player he said. Give me Deebo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 Just now, Scoundrel said: 4 minutes ago, rackcs said: Now this is slander. I can concede Bosa although I think it's close but there's no way he's 3rd best on that defense. 3rd best player he said. Give me Deebo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcb1213 Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 I have Warner as fourth /fifth best lb this year, let alone top ten overall player I'm sure you'll ask so in no particular order Parsons Campbell Leonard Then you run into the Demario Davis, Warner spectrum. I could easily put Warner fourth or fifth. I'm a bit of a Davis mark tho 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VigilantZombie Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 (edited) I think it's all about what you desire in a player. Defensively I want a disruptive defense. If I really gotta explain what I mean by disruptive I mean guys who can pressure the quarterback who can consistently get is consistently get in the backfield to the running back guys who are going to break down plays that the offense is trying to do. I'm sorry But to me Fred Warner has never been that guy. Having said that if you want a defense that is sound intactling it's been tackling that it's going to keep plays in front of the front of them isn't going to consistently let guys get by them Fred Warner fits really good into that category. Edited February 3, 2022 by wwhickok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoundrel Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 1 minute ago, wwhickok said: I think it's all about what you desire in a player. Defensively I want a disruptive defense. If I really gotta explain what I mean by disruptive I mean guys who can pressure the quarterback who can consistently get is consistently get in the backfield to the running back guys who are going to break down plays that the offense is trying to do. I'm sorry But to me Fred Warner has never been that guy. So Micah 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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