Madmike90 Posted January 11, 2022 Author Share Posted January 11, 2022 Albert Breer @AlbertBreer · 16m The Bears have put in a request to interview 49ers director of player personnel Ran Carthon for their GM job, per source. Carthon was also requested by the Giants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmike90 Posted January 11, 2022 Author Share Posted January 11, 2022 2 minutes ago, dll2000 said: Everyone wants all the Colts people, but they just traded a first for Wentz and took on his huge contract. Then they didn't even make playoffs when all they had to do was beat one of worst teams in history. Eagles fleeced them. One trade doesn't dictate how good a candidate is...the Colts have also done and excellent job of building an OL and secondary through the draft as well as finding playmakers on both offence and defence...they have had really good drafts over the past 3 or 4 seasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dll2000 Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 1 hour ago, Sugashane said: Yep. They only had a handshake agreement but he and IND's top brass didnt agree on a number of things so NE basically gave him low end HC money to be the OC. I said a while back that handshake agreements over million dollar contacts in a billion dollar business is absolutely ridiculous. Hopefully IND and McDaniels both learned from that. Plus, Kraft did a hard sell on him to stay because Brady really wanted him to stay. I understand that Kraft can be very persuasive when he really wants something. McDaniels probably got something more than just the public money in that transaction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dll2000 Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 Just now, Madmike90 said: One trade doesn't dictate how good a candidate is...the Colts have also done and excellent job of building an OL and secondary through the draft as well as finding playmakers on both offence and defence...they have had really good drafts over the past 3 or 4 seasons. @WindyCity had a lot of these conversations. You can do a lot of good things, but bottom line is always going to be team results. If you look at ourlads every team has really good players on it that came via the GM including Pace. I will say Colts did get a bad shake when Luck retired, but they didn't replace him with someone good enough. Like MN did a lot of good things in drafts, but Cousins wasn't quite good enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dll2000 Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 2017 Colts draft 1 15 Indianapolis Colts Malik Hooker S Ohio State Big Ten 2 46 Indianapolis Colts Quincy Wilson CB Florida SEC 3 80 Indianapolis Colts Tarell Basham DE Ohio MAC 4 137 Indianapolis Colts Zach Banner OG USC Pac-12 from New England [R4 - 17] 4* 143 Indianapolis Colts Marlon Mack RB South Florida The American from San Francisco [R4 - 21] 4* 144 Indianapolis Colts Grover Stewart DT Albany State SIAC 5 158 Indianapolis Colts Nate Hairston CB Temple The American 5 161 Indianapolis Colts Anthony Walker Jr. LB Northwestern Big Ten from Washington via San Francisco [R5 - 7] 2017 Bears draft 1 2 Chicago Bears Mitchell Trubisky † QB North Carolina ACC from San Francisco[R1 - 1] 2 45 Chicago Bears Adam Shaheen TE Ashland GLIAC from Arizona [R2 - 8] 4 112 Chicago Bears Eddie Jackson † S Alabama SEC from LA Rams [R4 - 4] 4 119 Chicago Bears Tarik Cohen † RB North Carolina A&T MEAC from Arizona [R4 - 9] 5 147 Chicago Bears Jordan Morgan OG Kutztown PSAC 2017 MN draft 2 41 Minnesota Vikings Dalvin Cook † RB Florida State ACC from Cincinnati [R2 - 6] 3 70 Minnesota Vikings Pat Elflein C Ohio State Big Ten from NY Jets [R3 - 2] 4 109 Minnesota Vikings Jaleel Johnson DT Iowa Big Ten from San Francisco [R4 - 2] 4 120 Minnesota Vikings Ben Gedeon LB Michigan Big Ten 5 170 Minnesota Vikings Rodney Adams WR South Florida The American from Kansas City [R5 - 11] 5* 180 Minnesota Vikings Danny Isidora OG Miami (FL) ACC from Kansas City [R5 - 16] 6 201 Minnesota Vikings Bucky Hodges TE Virginia Tech ACC from Washington [R6 - 10] 7 219 Minnesota Vikings Stacy Coley WR Miami (FL) ACC from Cleveland via San Francisco [R7 - 1] 7 220 Minnesota Vikings Ifeadi Odenigbo DE Northwestern Big Ten from San Francisco via Washington [R7 - 2] 7 232 Minnesota Vikings Elijah Lee LB Kansas State Big 12 7 245 Minnesota Vikings Jack Tocho CB NC State ACC from Kansas City [R7 - 20] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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dll2000 Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 2019 Bears 3 73 Chicago Bears David Montgomery RB Iowa State Big 12 from Detroit via New England [R3 - 3] 4 126 Chicago Bears Riley Ridley WR Georgia SEC 6* 205 Chicago Bears Duke Shelley CB Kansas State Big 12 from New England [R6 - 18] 7 222 Chicago Bears Kerrith Whyte RB Florida Atlantic C-USA from Denver via Philadelphia [R7 - 8] 7 238 Chicago Bears Stephen Denmark CB Valdosta State Gulf South 2019 Colts 2 34 Indianapolis Colts Rock Ya-Sin CB Temple The American from NY Jets [R2 - 1] 2 49 Indianapolis Colts Ben Banogu LB TCU Big 12 from Cleveland [R2 - 11] 2 59 Indianapolis Colts Parris Campbell WR Ohio State Big Ten 3 89 Indianapolis Colts Bobby Okereke LB Stanford Pac-12 4 109 Indianapolis Colts Khari Willis S Michigan State Big Ten from Jacksonville via Oakland [R4 - 3] 5 144 Indianapolis Colts Marvell Tell S USC Pac-12 from Jacksonville via Cleveland [R5 - 4] 5 164 Indianapolis Colts E. J. Speed LB Tarleton State LSC 6 199 Indianapolis Colts Gerri Green DE Mississippi State SEC 7 240 Indianapolis Colts Jackson Barton OT Utah Pac-12 7 246 Indianapolis Colts Javon Patterson C Ole Miss SEC from New England via Philadelphia [R7 - 22] 2019 MN 1 18 Minnesota Vikings Garrett Bradbury C NC State ACC 2018 Dave Rimington Trophy winner 2 50 Minnesota Vikings Irv Smith Jr. TE Alabama SEC 3* 102 Minnesota Vikings Alexander Mattison RB Boise State MW from Baltimore [R3 - 19] 4 114 Minnesota Vikings Dru Samia OG Oklahoma Big 12 from Green Bay via Seattle [R4 - 8] 5 162 Minnesota Vikings Cameron Smith LB USC Pac-12 from Chicago via New England, LA Rams and New England [R5 - 11] 6 190 Minnesota Vikings Armon Watts DT Arkansas SEC 6 191 Minnesota Vikings Marcus Epps S Wyoming MW from Tennessee via Baltimore [R6 - 9] 6 193 Minnesota Vikings Oli Udoh OT Elon CAA from Baltimore [R6 - 10] 7 217 Minnesota Vikings Kris Boyd CB Texas Big 12 from NY Jets [R7 - 3] 7 239 Minnesota Vikings Dillon Mitchell WR Oregon Pac-12 from Philadelphia via New England [R7 - 19] 7* 247 Minnesota Vikings Bisi Johnson WR Colorado State MW 7* 250 Minnesota Vikings Austin Cutting LS Air Force MW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Madmike90 Posted January 11, 2022 Author Share Posted January 11, 2022 47 minutes ago, dll2000 said: @WindyCity had a lot of these conversations. You can do a lot of good things, but bottom line is always going to be team results. If you look at ourlads every team has really good players on it that came via the GM including Pace. I will say Colts did get a bad shake when Luck retired, but they didn't replace him with someone good enough. Like MN did a lot of good things in drafts, but Cousins wasn't quite good enough. Team results don't decide how good a candidate for a GM role...that's why we see coaches fired usually before GMs...these guys can only do so much but it is then down to the coaches and players to realise that potential...can't just hire someone from a franchise that wins all the time...it's way more complex than that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nads786 Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 4 hours ago, Madmike90 said: Clear that this is going to be a long list of candidates on both sides which is good...hopefully they learn as they go during these interviews. I swear they did this with during the Emery saga to the point it looked like they didn't even have a sense of what they were looking for. Then instead of choosing Arians we went full potato and chose Trestman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dll2000 Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 20 minutes ago, Madmike90 said: Team results don't decide how good a candidate for a GM role...that's why we see coaches fired usually before GMs...these guys can only do so much but it is then down to the coaches and players to realise that potential...can't just hire someone from a franchise that wins all the time...it's way more complex than that. Coaches and GMs are a team. A unit. You can blame GM for a coach if he picked the coach. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmike90 Posted January 11, 2022 Author Share Posted January 11, 2022 10 minutes ago, Nads786 said: I swear they did this with during the Emery saga to the point it looked like they didn't even have a sense of what they were looking for. Then instead of choosing Arians we went full potato and chose Trestman. I'm a fan of interviewing a lot of guys initially then cutting it down to a proper shortlist of 3-5 candidates for proper interviews...a lot to be learned from these guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmike90 Posted January 11, 2022 Author Share Posted January 11, 2022 1 minute ago, dll2000 said: Coaches and GMs are a team. A unit. You can blame GM for a coach if he picked the coach. Not always true at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmike90 Posted January 11, 2022 Author Share Posted January 11, 2022 @AdamSchefter · 24m Bears requested an interview with the Buffalo Bills’ assistant general manager Joe Schoen for their GM job, per source. This is good news as well...#2 for me behind Dodds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAF-N72EX Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 12 minutes ago, Madmike90 said: @AdamSchefter · 24m Bears requested an interview with the Buffalo Bills’ assistant general manager Joe Schoen for their GM job, per source. This is good news as well...#2 for me behind Dodds. Hiring a guy named Joe Shmoe would be such a Bears-like move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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