MWil23 Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 5 minutes ago, Tk3 said: Wincon specifically says "Sith AND all threats to the Galactic Empire" I have no idea who/what Dr Doom is, but he isn't one of the town factions. If we want to resolve something else, I can live with that, but I am 100% not accepting "let's work with proven non-town who claims friendly other" Basic math says even if we are wrong, voting him does not harm us at all whatsoever. We are off to a good start and worst case scenario we are out nothing today and possibly expose him as a scum liar. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 4 minutes ago, Tk3 said: I'll be more specific with what happened to me last night. I tried to visit Squire. However I was redirected to Gopher instead. My move on Gopher failed. So a few things happened last night, but I was visited with a redirect onto Gopher AND something happened that made the move fail - and I'm 99% sure the reasoning was related to Gopher, NOT related to me Interesting...why so certain it's a Gopher thing and not a you or a Squire thing given the Wolf/Squire/Slappy dilemma? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 4 minutes ago, Tk3 said: Or related to the person who caused the redirect Either Gopher could not be visited, or the redirect also causes a move to fail (is that a possible variant of a redirect?) That's what I'm wondering, is if it's built into Squire's ability set. Those are a couple of coincidences related to Squire out of the gate here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tk3 Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 Just now, MWil23 said: Interesting...why so certain it's a Gopher thing and not a you or a Squire thing given the Wolf/Squire/Slappy dilemma? I had other stuff succeed. So I doubt it is a me thing, though I suppose it is possible Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOUCAN Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 4 hours ago, DrDoomIQ said: Sees the mob gathering outside my humble diner I may be a bit of a Scoundrel but I'm no scum. Why don't we all just sit down and have a few cups of Jawa Juice and talk this out (Can also get you a great deal on mineral rights out on Subterrel 😜) Super interesting light claim considering I don't know where being a Scoundrel would fit in in the midst of a prequel trilogy game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOUCAN Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 Just now, JoshstraDaymus said: Super interesting light claim considering I don't know where being a Scoundrel would fit in in the midst of a prequel trilogy game. Unless you're the 38 seconds of Chewbacca from Revenge of the Sith 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcb1213 Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 so in review Doom isn't town and is a scoundrel, i guess three people visited slappy, Squire said he didnt and actually visited another one who did supposedly visit slappy which is LOL convenient if true. KSJ said he did visit slappy and slappy should know about it, and randy hasn't checked in yet. Slappy apparantly doesnt believe squire at the moment Ruskie has given zero reason why whicker is scum but seems adament about it. Squire thinks he's aligned with possible bad dude randy TK3 said he visited gopher but failed while gopher is flat out voting TK3 anything else I'm missing I can add to this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squire12 Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 57 minutes ago, MWil23 said: So you agree with my stance from yesterday that I made clear again today and yet disagreed with it and/or accused me of changing my philosophies 2 hours later? Meaning by voting Dr. Doom today? Yesterday, did you or did you not want to not have a runaway vote at some point in the day? Yes you switched to forge when he claimed dooku. easy to do, no big deal so why go for the runaway vote thinking today? 57 minutes ago, MWil23 said: Assuming you meant today, it's pretty simple from my POV: why would you assume i meant today when I clearly stated "Look where votes ended yesterday." is this moving into trolling scum Mwil? 57 minutes ago, MWil23 said: Looking at the fact that General Grievous visited Slappy and that Wolf confirmed 3 visitors (or 2 on the chance that you're telling the truth), here's what basic "math" says: 1. Dr. Doom is either lying or voting him won't hurt Town, which is our best option barring another night result. 2. The math says that the best case scenario with going for one of you, KSJ, or RMIB, is that we have a 1 in 3 chance of getting the vote right in this instance. Perhaps it's a bit of a conservative play, and I could still be swayed as there's a lot of day left, but an investigative result (Wolf and Orca) that nets us a bird in hand is not the same as a claim and CC of said claim when, before Forge rage claimed scum, it wasn't 100% clear as to who was telling the truth or lying. It's not a chance in philosophy so much as a change in math and cause/effect move results. looks like a safe play to hunt for little fish, that is for sure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squire12 Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 50 minutes ago, MWil23 said: Basic math says even if we are wrong, voting him does not harm us at all whatsoever. We are off to a good start and worst case scenario we are out nothing today and possibly expose him as a scum liar. If this is the path you want to go, that is fine. As you noted, there is a lot of day left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squire12 Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 48 minutes ago, MWil23 said: That's what I'm wondering, is if it's built into Squire's ability set. Those are a couple of coincidences related to Squire out of the gate here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squire12 Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 56 minutes ago, Tk3 said: I'll be more specific with what happened to me last night. I tried to visit Squire. However I was redirected to Gopher instead. My move on Gopher failed. So a few things happened last night, but I was visited with a redirect onto Gopher AND something happened that made the move fail - and I'm 99% sure the reasoning was related to Gopher, NOT related to me interesting you visited me. my guess is TK3 would be coming with bad intentions based on your track record Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slappy Mc Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 26 minutes ago, bcb1213 said: so in review Doom isn't town and is a scoundrel, i guess three people visited slappy, Squire said he didnt and actually visited another one who did supposedly visit slappy which is LOL convenient if true. KSJ said he did visit slappy and slappy should know about it, and randy hasn't checked in yet. Slappy apparantly doesnt believe squire at the moment Ruskie has given zero reason why whicker is scum but seems adament about it. Squire thinks he's aligned with possible bad dude randy TK3 said he visited gopher but failed while gopher is flat out voting TK3 anything else I'm missing I can add to this @wolfeyestrk @RandyMossIsBoss @kingseanjohn @squire12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tk3 Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 1 minute ago, squire12 said: interesting you visited me. my guess is TK3 would be coming with bad intentions based on your track record cool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 3 minutes ago, squire12 said: Yesterday, did you or did you not want to not have a runaway vote at some point in the day? Yes you switched to forge when he claimed dooku. easy to do, no big deal so why go for the runaway vote thinking today? Because, TODAY we have 2 verified night result(s) from Orca and from Wolf, meaning our odds are infinitely better than going solely off of claims and threadplay. 3 minutes ago, squire12 said: why would you assume i meant today when I clearly stated "Look where votes ended yesterday." is this moving into trolling scum Mwil? I was talking about/answering your question from earlier where you said my logic changed. It has not at all. 3 minutes ago, squire12 said: looks like a safe play to hunt for little fish, that is for sure So, you want to discard a confirmed non Town and claimed Indy who could absolutely be lying scum and go for a 1 for 3 statistical chance of being correct, while still not solving the DrDoom dilemma? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tk3 Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 It's lunacy to not want to vote DrDoom here I'm all ears for the rationale, but I can't come up with one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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