LETSGOBROWNIES Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 2 minutes ago, brownie man said: See I’m the total opposite I’d rather draft a receiver so they grow in the system without having any outside expectations. This receiver class is stupid deep. I have no idea how deep it is, but I think it’s deep enough to get a #2 caliber WR (as a rookie) in R1-2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AkronsWitness Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 6 minutes ago, LETSGOBROWNIES said: Isn’t Kirk primarily a slot? I believe so and I have never really saw the appeal with him. He would be a good WR3 to have, but I would be upset if we signed this dude to a 13M deal to be a WR2. I dont understand cutting Jarvis because you dont want to pay him 10M but will go give Kirk 12M+ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSURacerDT55 Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 10 minutes ago, LETSGOBROWNIES said: Isn’t Kirk primarily a slot? I don't think he was drafted to be but i think with his quickness that would be ideal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candyman93 Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 7 minutes ago, brownie man said: See I’m the total opposite I’d rather draft a receiver so they grow in the system without having any outside expectations. This receiver class is stupid deep. Spend money on the Dline so we can get some guys that can contribute day 1. Draft at both positions but I think you can more bang for your buck signing lineman this year. We need vet WRs to show us what we have in Baker. Bakers time is up next year it’s put up or shut up. It’s rare for a rookie WR to do what Chase did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candyman93 Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 3 minutes ago, AkronsWitness said: I dont understand cutting Jarvis because you dont want to pay him 10M but will go give Kirk 12M+ Age Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AkronsWitness Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, MSURacerDT55 said: I don't think he was drafted to be but i think with his quickness that would be ideal To me he is a Great Value Tyler Boyd, who is WR3. Edited March 14, 2022 by AkronsWitness 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 1 minute ago, AkronsWitness said: I believe so and I have never really saw the appeal with him. He would be a good WR3 to have, but I would be upset if we signed this dude to a 13M deal to be a WR2. I dont understand cutting Jarvis because you dont want to pay him 10M but will go give Kirk 12M+ I think the speed difference is notable, but yeah, more or less. Maybe this is the wrong way to look at it, but I don’t go out looking for slot receivers. Guys who are in the slot are typically there because they can’t win on the outside. Now I’m not dating you don’t need them, just that if I’m spending big money, I want a perimeter receiver, not someone who needs protected in the slot. I feel like our TE’s or DPJ or Felton or Schwartz would do just fine in the slot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSURacerDT55 Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 Just now, AkronsWitness said: He reminds me of a slightly less talented Tyler Boyd, who is WR3. I think he is still good, he was just in a crap show of a team/offense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 2 minutes ago, candyman93 said: We need vet WRs to show us what we have in Baker. Bakers time is up next year it’s put up or shut up. It’s rare for a rookie WR to do what Chase did. I mean, we’d have exactly one rookie playing meaningful snaps on the offense if we took one R1-3. And no WR is gonna do what Chase did here. Different scheme. We just need a dude who can win 1:1 and make teams respect them with their coverages. I’m not sure Kirk does that any better than some of these rookies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AkronsWitness Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 Just now, LETSGOBROWNIES said: I think the speed difference is notable, but yeah, more or less. Maybe this is the wrong way to look at it, but I don’t go out looking for slot receivers. Guys who are in the slot are typically there because they can’t win on the outside. Now I’m not dating you don’t need them, just that if I’m spending big money, I want a perimeter receiver, not someone who needs protected in the slot. I feel like our TE’s or DPJ or Felton or Schwartz would do just fine in the slot. Yeah but being a 'slot' WR is a actual talent you need to have. You cant just stick any fast dude in the slot and call them a good slot WR. The 3 best slot WRs I have seen are Welker/Edelmen/Landry and none of them are considered burners. Being a route technician, great hands and being able to catch in traffic are far more important qualities for a good slot receiver than 'hey your fast Felton go be our slot WR' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 2 minutes ago, MSURacerDT55 said: I think he is still good, he was just in a crap show of a team/offense I guess the real question is would his skill set be worth 8-10 million per year (or more?) over a rookie from what we need a #2 receiver to do? IMO it wouldn’t. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSURacerDT55 Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 Just now, LETSGOBROWNIES said: I guess the real question is would his skill set be worth 8-10 million per year (or more?) over a rookie from what we need a #2 receiver to do? IMO it wouldn’t. Probably not but 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 1 minute ago, AkronsWitness said: Yeah but being a 'slot' WR is a actual talent you need to have. You cant just stick any fast dude in the slot and call them a good slot WR. The 3 best slot WRs I have seen are Welker/Edelmen/Landry and none of them are considered burners. Being a route technician, great hands and being able to catch in traffic are far more important qualities for a good slot receiver than 'hey your fast Felton go be our slot WR' Right, they’re great slot guys because they can’t win on the outside. If you just want a possession guy, I think DPJ and the TE’s can do a lot of the same things. As far as Schwartz, as bad as he was teams have to at least respect his speed. If he gets a step, you’re not recovering. It’s much harder to press a guy in the slot and much harder to cover a guy with his speed when you can’t use your hands to slow him down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 I'd like one more free agent WR. That doesn't have to be a big money guy, but it should be someone who can come in and be capable in the slot IMO. Then let's draft a guy. Cooper WR1 DPJ and draft pick WR2 Free Agent Slot 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 To be clear, I’m not saying having a nice slot isn’t desirable, just that you can often find someone with that skill set day 3. You don’t have to pay 10-15 million per year or whatever these FA WR’s are about to make. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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