kgarrett12486 Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, ravishingone said: He helped win a SB for the team. Also, with the current Flores situation, I'm confident the league has nudged clubs to not give out shorter contracts to minority coaches. Good news for Bowles to get more money in his pocket. That's the problem though. You don't hand out a long-term deal to a guy moving into a new position based on a past accolade he was part of. This should not have been more than a 3 year deal to start, regardless if he is minority or not. We have to remember he was a terrible HC his 1st go around... Edited March 31, 2022 by kgarrett12486 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravishingone Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 Just now, kgarrett12486 said: That's the problem though, you don't hand out guys moving into a new position for past accolades. This should not have been more than a 3 year deal to start, regardless if he is minority or not. We have to remember he was a terrible HC his 1st go around... Good chance if it goes badly, he'll be fired after 3 seasons. So if the Glazers owe money to a fired HC, I have no issue. We'll see if he has learned anything. It could be argued a HC is only as good as his QB. Not absolute, could be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgarrett12486 Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 6 minutes ago, ravishingone said: Good chance if it goes badly, he'll be fired after 3 seasons. So if the Glazers owe money to a fired HC, I have no issue. We'll see if he has learned anything. It could be argued a HC is only as good as his QB. Not absolute, could be. That's true, the Glazers aren't the type of owners who will just sit back and ride the contract out if it goes poorly. At least there is solace in that. I don't want myself to come off as I don't think Bowles is deserving of the job, as I believe either him or Lefty were the appropriate succession plans. Like you said, I just hope Bowles truly learned from his 1st go around. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucsfan333 Posted March 31, 2022 Author Share Posted March 31, 2022 There was one point in time where we were paying like three or four HCs at the same time because we'd fired so many. lol If Bowles isn't getting it done, he isn't gonna be around for very long. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BucsDraftGeek47 Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 Bowles HC fine Here's what I don't like: By this point everyone knows I'm not that fond of Leftwich but we have Brady , so fine We lost Caldwell to the Ravens who probably would have been the new DC Foote & Rodgers imo are not ready to be DCs So essentially, we have a HC who's last gig didn't go well, a blah OC imo, and DC who wouldn't be a DC on any other team atm Coaching matters and without BA being as hands on as normally in the past, I just don't think our coaching is up to snuff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgarrett12486 Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 7 minutes ago, BucsDraftGeek47 said: Bowles HC fine Here's what I don't like: By this point everyone knows I'm not that fond of Leftwich but we have Brady , so fine We lost Caldwell to the Ravens who probably would have been the new DC Foote & Rodgers imo are not ready to be DCs So essentially, we have a HC who's last gig didn't go well, a blah OC imo, and DC who wouldn't be a DC on any other team atm Coaching matters and without BA being as hands on as normally in the past, I just don't think our coaching is up to snuff The good thing is that BA will still be in the building and I'm sure these guy's can go to him if they need. The question is, will they though, or will they be too prideful. For their sake and ours, I hope they avoid the Steve Spagnoulo syndrome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravishingone Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 I wish Foote would be the play caller, but it is what it is. The HC not being a play caller is a dying breed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indifference Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 Right. Our game management with clock was already suspect at best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BucsDraftGeek47 Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 1 hour ago, ravishingone said: I wish Foote would be the play caller, but it is what it is. The HC not being a play caller is a dying breed. Looks like more 12 yard CB cushions... on 3rd and 5 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buc Ball Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 If we’re having co DCs, it’s wild that one of them is not the playcaller. 5 years is also a v long time. I wonder if this means less money per year with an agreement to review it after 2 years, depending on results. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buc Ball Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 1 hour ago, BucsDraftGeek47 said: Looks like more 12 yard CB cushions... on 3rd and 5 🤣 Haha, Mike Smith is long gone, thankfully. Nothing like the days of watching Johnthan Banks and VH3 line up 5 yards deeper than the first down marker and wondering why they’ve gave up another first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucsfan333 Posted March 31, 2022 Author Share Posted March 31, 2022 13 minutes ago, Buc Ball said: 5 years is also a v long time. I wonder if this means less money per year with an agreement to review it after 2 years, depending on results. I doubt it. lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ravishingone Posted April 1, 2022 Share Posted April 1, 2022 Bowles is the HC, but Brady will run the offense. I'm old enough to remember when QBs called their own plays without an OC calling multiple plays thru a microphone. Leftwich will have responsibilty, but this will be a Brady offense even more this season. The Bucs will give Brady whatever he wants and they are wise to do so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucsfan333 Posted April 1, 2022 Author Share Posted April 1, 2022 2 minutes ago, ravishingone said: Bowles is the HC, but Brady will run the offense. I'm old enough to remember when QBs called their own plays without an OC calling multiple plays thru a microphone. Leftwich will have responsibilty, but this will be a Brady offense even more this season. The Bucs will give Brady whatever he wants and they are wise to do so. Bowles basically said he wasn't gonna **** with the offense. He was gonna let Lefty make every decision. Which means Brady is gonna run the show. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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