buno67 Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 2 hours ago, LETSGOBROWNIES said: those could improve as well??? Ok it’s goes from absolute garbage to bad. It’s still not good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Johnson Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 1 hour ago, brownie man said: HE DOESNT FREAKING HAVE TO BE THAT TONY PARKER IS A HOF PG AND AVERAGED LIKE 4 ASSIST A GAME I'LL TAKE TONY PARKER'S CAREER OVER A JASON KIDD We just have to build our team understanding that. Get us a point forward at the 3 or 4 and we'll be fine. He's young it'll get better, but I'm going to embrace his skillset and model him after TonyP Hahaha I agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted March 21, 2019 Author Share Posted March 21, 2019 25 minutes ago, buno67 said: Ok it’s goes from absolute garbage to bad. It’s still not good I’m glad to see you breaking from being a homer long enough to throw in some other types of bad takes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Johnson Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 27 minutes ago, buno67 said: I’ll gladly take Collin as Tony Parker if the cavs are getting a guy like Tim Duncan and Manu somewhere down the line as we. Oh yeah and a coach like Pops. If we are going to build a team potentially around him. Give me Kidd’s career, Kidd could carry a team to the playoffs, that’s proven, Parker, not so much. Jason Kidd was the better scorer, better facilitator, and better PG compared to Parker. Only thing Parker had over Kidd was better roster and better coach... if you are trying to pick a PG and you take Parker over Kid, you are a moron. Parker is good but he is not better than Kidd. Be like having the chance to pick Kobe or Jordon and you selecting Kobe. Results will still be positive but you didn’t pick the better player. We can't build a team around Sexton, but we can get a guy which you can build a team around and Sexton will be a big asset. Maybe even a nice trade piece if the parts don't mesh. He's pretty good for the 8th pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candyman93 Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 (edited) I really like the Tony Parker comparison for Sexton. Sextons confidence in his 3 ball is obvious. He needs a true playmaker next to him though. Edited March 21, 2019 by candyman93 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Johnson Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 Everything with the Cavs would actually be pretty dandy if we weren't shoveling a boatload of cash to Kevin Love until 2023. I'm glad for him as a person, but I can't believe we in our right mind would strap ourselves to an injury prone 2nd or 3rd option at the back end of his career. Unless he has some miraculous resurgence of youth and health, the guy is going to be a complete liability by the time our young talent is hitting their stride. Just as a basic philosophy, if the contract you're handing somebody immediately makes them untradeable, which Love's did, then it's probably a really, really bad idea to give them that contract. It seemed like Gilbert was just desperately grasping whatever buzz he could make about the team. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buno67 Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 13 minutes ago, Rod Johnson said: Everything with the Cavs would actually be pretty dandy if we weren't shoveling a boatload of cash to Kevin Love until 2023. I'm glad for him as a person, but I can't believe we in our right mind would strap ourselves to an injury prone 2nd or 3rd option at the back end of his career. Unless he has some miraculous resurgence of youth and health, the guy is going to be a complete liability by the time our young talent is hitting their stride. Just as a basic philosophy, if the contract you're handing somebody immediately makes them untradeable, which Love's did, then it's probably a really, really bad idea to give them that contract. It seemed like Gilbert was just desperately grasping whatever buzz he could make about the team. Love will be a solid trade piece next year IMO. I can see a team willing to trade for him cause they know he is locked up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buno67 Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 47 minutes ago, LETSGOBROWNIES said: I’m glad to see you breaking from being a homer long enough to throw in some other types of bad takes. Until the dude can prove he can facilitate or actually be a +defender, he shouldn’t be a piece to build around. Maybe a role player but im not going to be excited about a role player. We just had a PG who was 10x the offensive player compared to Collin who wasn’t great at facilitating and was a bad defender and he didn’t make the cavs better until Lebron joined up. Right now Sexton is on track to be a poor mans Irving. Hell rookie Sexton makes rookie Irving look like Jason Kidd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted March 21, 2019 Author Share Posted March 21, 2019 1 minute ago, buno67 said: Until the dude can prove he can facilitate or actually be a +defender, he shouldn’t be a piece to build around. Maybe a role player but im not going to be excited about a role player. Who are these 19 year old rookies who are plus defenders? Most players take a few years to learn and grow and develop physically before they’re good defensively. 1 minute ago, buno67 said: We just had a PG who was 10x the offensive player compared to Collin who wasn’t great at facilitating and was a bad defender and he didn’t make the cavs better until Lebron joined up. Right now Sexton is on track to be a poor mans Irving. I’m not sure what your point is here. Is that the only option there is? As good as Irving or useless? No in between? Because Irving didn’t develop defensively, Sexton can’t? 1 minute ago, buno67 said: Hell rookie Sexton makes rookie Irving look like Jason Kidd Is there a point here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckeyesNut0623 Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 2 minutes ago, LETSGOBROWNIES said: Who are these 19 year old rookies who are plus defenders? Most players take a few years to learn and grow and develop physically before they’re good defensively. I’m not sure what your point is here. Is that the only option there is? As good as Irving or useless? No in between? Because Irving didn’t develop defensively, Sexton can’t? Is there a point here? Wiggins was a rookie plus defender but you are right in that they are rare. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted March 21, 2019 Author Share Posted March 21, 2019 1 minute ago, buckeyesNut0623 said: Wiggins was a rookie plus defender but you are right in that they are rare. He was a number one overall pick too. Collin Sexton was never the prospect Wiggins, Kidd, Irving, etc. were. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonanza23 Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 This Ja Morant kid is pretty good. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buno67 Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 21 minutes ago, Bonanza23 said: This Ja Morant kid is pretty good. He would make a great consolation prize if the Cavs get the #2 pick Instead of 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie man Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 Just now, buno67 said: He would make a great consolation prize if the Cavs get the #2 pick Instead of 1 I’m still not sure I’m taking him over Barrett you gotta remember he’s a sophomore Barrett is a year younger and right on that same level. I do think there are the top 3 then everyone else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buno67 Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 1 hour ago, buckeyesNut0623 said: Wiggins was a rookie plus defender but you are right in that they are rare. I don’t think Wiggins was that great of a defender. He has never lived up to that billing. His rookie year he was only 0.0 DWS. Adv stats weren’t that great either for it. Defense stats so some of the rookies are doing well except for Sexton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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