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13 minutes ago, Yin-Yang said:

Honestly my “if they ever…then watch out” mantra for the Bengals is get a new head coach. They’re insanely talented but Zac has no idea what he’s doing.

Zac is a good culture guy and a players coach - the players seem to love him. The guy just isn’t a play-caller; never has been. I don’t think he needs to be outright fired as much as he needs to hand over the play sheet and focus on game management. 

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12 minutes ago, SmittyBacall said:

Zac is a good culture guy and a players coach - the players seem to love him. The guy just isn’t a play-caller; never has been. I don’t think he needs to be outright fired as much as he needs to hand over the play sheet and focus on game management. 

I don’t know, man. I’ll defer to your take, but it seems like we hardly ever see coaches that suck at X’s and O’s/game planning, win championships. Kubiak technically, but Peyton was that guy. Same with Arians. Caroll, I guess? Shrug, my gut says they’re better off moving on.

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5 minutes ago, SmittyBacall said:

Zac is a good culture guy and a players coach - the players seem to love him. The guy just isn’t a play-caller; never has been. I don’t think he needs to be outright fired as much as he needs to hand over the play sheet and focus on game management. 

The man just got you to the SB for the first time in ~25 years and your calling for his head 3 games later?

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8 minutes ago, JAF-N72EX said:

The man just got you to the SB for the first time in ~25 years and your calling for his head 3 games later?

Calling for his head? No. OC duties, yes. Most of our success has some despite him. 

I mean look at our O on paper. Any semi-competent OC should be dropping 25-30 points every week with ease.

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6 minutes ago, JAF-N72EX said:

How? Please explain.

 

Just now, SmittyBacall said:

Calling for his head? No. OC duties, yes. Most of our success has some despite him. 

I mean look at our O on paper. Any semi-competent OC should be dropping 25-30 points every week with ease.

 

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14 minutes ago, Yin-Yang said:

I don’t know, man. I’ll defer to your take, but it seems like we hardly ever see coaches that suck at X’s and O’s/game planning, win championships. Kubiak technically, but Peyton was that guy. Same with Arians. Caroll, I guess? Shrug, my gut says they’re better off moving on.

Maybe I’m just biased. Maybe I’m hoping with mor experience things get better.

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Just now, SmittyBacall said:

Calling for his head? No. OC duties, yes. Most of our success has some despite him. 

I mean look at our O on paper. Any semi-competent OC should be dropping 25-30 points every week with ease.

I know what you meant and I was afraid you take it that way but I didn't mean it like that (fired). I should've corrected my wording, that's my bad. Even thought about it afterwards and should've edited.

I understand what you're saying because I had the similar feelings about Matt Nagy in Chicago for a while. Good coach but bad play caller. But I guess I'm of the opinion that if it's not broke don't fix it and it's only been a few games. Getting to the SB is hard in the NFL and the SB hangover for players is a real thing since it raises expectations. Keep that in mind.

When he starts losing control of the locker room in any fashion (small or big---because it usually starts small) then you need to be concerned.  But until then I would let it play out for the season. He's earned that much at least IMO.

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14 minutes ago, kokichi said:

 

 

I only asked for your opinion and you quoted someone else as your entire answer. I see your new here and so here's some words of advice. This forum derives on discussions regarding different opinions from each user and when you simply just quote someone else without saying anything then you're not really stating an opinion or opening up any sort of discussion.

If you feel the same way, that's fine. But can you at least try to elaborate a bit more next time to try and further the conversation? That's it. No big deal. Just mentioning it is all.

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