incognito_man Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 3 minutes ago, squire12 said: https://nflcombineresults.com/playerpage.php?f=Davante&l=Adams&i=20912 https://www.ganggreennation.com/2014/4/20/5633236/scouting-the-draft-davante-adams-wr-fresno-state https://bleacherreport.com/articles/1942745-davante-adams-scouting-report-nfl-outlook-for-fresno-state-wr https://www.si.com/nfl/packers/news/the-ultimate-packers-draft-preview-receivers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 3 minutes ago, beekay414 said: Because it literally dates the pro day results. None of those sites do. Here's another pro day 1.60 from Packers 247. https://247sports.com/nfl/green-bay-packers/Article/Green-Bay-Packers-Davante-Adams-2014-Pro-Day-Fresno-State--51804446/ https://247sports.com/nfl/green-bay-packers/Article/Cracking-the-Packers-draft-code-Receivers-131113263/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, beekay414 said: In your most recent posts? You know, where you continuously change your mind the more you dig? I remember Nolan Smith being your top 3 guy for the Packers too. He was at the time I watched him. Time is weird that way. As you get more things accomplished, perspectives change. That being said, Smith is absolutely still in that top 5ish guys for me. Edited April 11, 2023 by incognito_man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazrimiv Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 I still think GB is likely to go Edge or OT in RD1, so the real question is who will be there in RD2. Will QJ fall that far? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beekay414 Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 (edited) 13 minutes ago, incognito_man said: He was at the time I watched him. Time is weird that way. As you get more things accomplished, perspectives change. That being said, Smith is absolutely still in that top 5ish guys for me. EDIT - NVM, you're right, I'm wrong per usual. Have a great Tuesday. Edited April 11, 2023 by beekay414 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beekay414 Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 (edited) NVM Edited April 11, 2023 by beekay414 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beekay414 Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 Yo not really trying to argue here, just want to hear your reasoning for why you think the 1.53 10 yard is right over the 1.6 @incognito_man. Hear me out real quick and then give me your feedback. Trying to have a less snarky conversation here. So, Davante runs a 4.56 40 at the combine and then a 4.51 40 at his pro day. That we can all agree on? So, what makes more sense here. That he cut a full 10th of a second of his 10 yard split or that he cut 0.04 seconds off it (from 1.64 to 1.53 or 1.64 to 1.6) while cutting 0.05 seconds off his 40? You're better at math than I am. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 25 minutes ago, beekay414 said: Yo not really trying to argue here, just want to hear your reasoning for why you think the 1.53 10 yard is right over the 1.6 @incognito_man. Hear me out real quick and then give me your feedback. Trying to have a less snarky conversation here. So, Davante runs a 4.56 40 at the combine and then a 4.51 40 at his pro day. That we can all agree on? So, what makes more sense here. That he cut a full 10th of a second of his 10 yard split or that he cut 0.04 seconds off it (from 1.64 to 1.53 or 1.64 to 1.6) while cutting 0.05 seconds off his 40? You're better at math than I am. My default is to use the best recorded value for these guys. I get the appeal of using combine do to equality, but **** happens. The truth is/was probably somewhere in the middle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beekay414 Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, incognito_man said: My default is to use the best recorded value for these guys. I get the appeal of using combine do to equality, but **** happens. The truth is/was probably somewhere in the middle. But I'm trying to find the reasoning in the math, not what someone may or may not have put out. For all we know, one place made an error (either way) and multiple places ran with it. Unfortunately, anything with access to the actual results is long gone bad link-wise so nobody will really know. Draftscout has never let me down on players results so I'll always default to them. Though, what I'm asking is what makes more sense. That he cut over a tenth of a second off one portion of his time while only cutting half that from his total time or that he cut reasonably the same time off his 10 yard split as he did his 40? Trying to find the math here. Edited April 11, 2023 by beekay414 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HokieHigh Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 22 minutes ago, beekay414 said: But I'm trying to find the reasoning in the math, not what someone may or may not have put out. For all we know, one place made an error (either way) and multiple places ran with it. Unfortunately, anything with access to the actual results is long gone bad link-wise so nobody will really know. Draftscout has never let me down on players results so I'll always default to them. Though, what I'm asking is what makes more sense. That he cut over a tenth of a second off one portion of his time while only cutting half that from his total time or that he cut reasonably the same time off his 10 yard split as he did his 40? Trying to find the math here. maybe his start was better but he ran worse? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
packfanfb Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 2 hours ago, beekay414 said: Amon-Ra St. Brown - 1.63 10 yard split Davante Adams - 1.64 10 yard split Both top 10 in YAC at WR in the NFL last year. There's more to it than 10 yard splits. EDIT - I'll even add CeeDee Lamb's 1.58 10 yard split to that list. He was also top 10 at WR in YAC. All 3 of those guys posted 4.50 40 times or worse during the draft process as well. All three guys are exceptional route runners. Coincidence? Still fighting the good fight I see... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beekay414 Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 3 minutes ago, packfanfb said: Still fighting the good fight I see... Should probably stop tbqh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PossibleCabbage Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 For those of you thinking the Packers might take an OL high, which are the top guys who actually match the Packers profile for drafting OL? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packerraymond Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 8 minutes ago, beekay414 said: Should probably stop tbqh Yes it's all pointless when Lukas Van Ness, Nolan Smith or Darnell Wright is going to be the pick anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beekay414 Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 6 minutes ago, Packerraymond said: Yes it's all pointless when Lukas Van Ness, Nolan Smith or Darnell Wright is going to be the pick anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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