HokieHigh Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 13 minutes ago, Mazrimiv said: Not really. Picks 13 and 43 are pretty good relative to recent expectations, but are pretty awful relative to what likely would have come back had these trade talks occurred a year ago like many in this forum wanted. And that doesn't even take into account the terrible contract. I do agree that we could have gotten more for him, but you have to take into account the fact that we had a chance to run it back this year. If we win it all this year, his value would have stayed that high. And this time allowed them to remove some uncertainty about Love. It wasnt diminished returns for nothing until you consider our season was awful, due in large part to injuries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lodestar Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 2 minutes ago, Mr Anonymous said: I just wish it was literally any team other than the Jets. Wouldn't surprise me at all if Rodgers turns them down for no other reason than not wanting to repeat the Favre storyline. I've had the same thought. There is a 0% chance this isn't a factor for Rodgers. Hopefully he can get over it, but you just know he's feeling some level of bitterness about it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TransientTexan Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 2 minutes ago, HokieHigh said: The jets could not afford rodgers if packers werent picking up part of the tab. …..Because GB gave him the overinflated deal in the first place in 2022. Them having to do this right now just to execute a deal is a mess of their own making. the contract was deflating AR’s value. GB working to un-deflate it now, is not the same as them inflating it into a discount deal. At least as far as giving the FO kudos for the original deal is concerned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainmaker90 Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 41 minutes ago, incognito_man said: Really high. There's no question in my mind he wants to be wanted here. But it's just not reality anymore. So he'll go where he feels wanted. I shoulda specified more. Now that he’s not ‘wanted’ anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazrimiv Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 2 minutes ago, Lodestar said: I've had the same thought. There is a 0% chance this isn't a factor for Rodgers. Hopefully he can get over it, but you just know he's feeling some level of bitterness about it. Or maybe the idea of successfully resurrecting the Jets where Favre failed is exactly the type of thing that would appeal to Rodgers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HokieHigh Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 1 minute ago, TransientTexan said: …..Because GB gave him the overinflated deal in the first place in 2022. Them having to do this right now just to execute a deal is a mess of their own making. the contract was deflating AR’s value. GB working to un-deflate it now, is not the same as them inflating it into a discount deal. At least as far as giving the FO kudos for the original deal is concerned. Because rodgers expects to be the highest paid qb in the league. Not #4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 21 minutes ago, skibrett15 said: Nothing about how it's crafted specifically allows them to buy draft compensation. His value is depressed because of how bad the contract is. If it were a better contract he would have more value This is not true at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TransientTexan Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 Just now, HokieHigh said: Because rodgers expects to be the highest paid qb in the league. Not #4. If he was on the open market right now, how many teams do you think would give him #1-QB-in-the-league money? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 29 minutes ago, Haha21 said: I wish GB was willing to deal Rodgers to the NFC. I want a bidding war. they are willing to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HokieHigh Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 1 minute ago, TransientTexan said: If he was on the open market right now, how many teams do you think would give him #1-QB-in-the-league money? At least one 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TransientTexan Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 1 minute ago, HokieHigh said: At least one doubtful Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packerraymond Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 15 minutes ago, Mr Anonymous said: Don't make me root for Rodgers to want to stay @Packerraymond I want nothing more than for him to be successfully wooed by the Jets and take management off the hook even at the expense of everyone here telling me I was wrong. I won't have been wrong about anything other than misreading Rodgers but I'll be much more excited about this coming season. I am still 50/50 him staying or going. What I'm 100/0 on though is that we're not begging him to come back. We did that in 2021. Then we committed to him in 2022 and it's clear as day the FO felt like Rodgers acted like a retiring business owner who sells his company and takes the victory lap year as a "advisor" on staff. He showed up to work every day in his Tommy Bahama and khakis. If he wants back in, it's time to dust off the work uniform and truly go "all in." 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 7 minutes ago, Rainmaker90 said: I shoulda specified more. Now that he’s not ‘wanted’ anymore. I'm going to vote 0% until proven otherwise. It would be the first time he swallowed his pride and put his ego aside, and I can't see that happening here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skibrett15 Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 (edited) 8 minutes ago, incognito_man said: This is not true at all. what specifically is it about the option bonus of $59M with a long window (march 15 until september, which is the only unique aspect of his deal) that allows them to exchange cap for compensation? Edited March 7, 2023 by skibrett15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 2 minutes ago, Packerraymond said: I am still 50/50 him staying or going. What I'm 100/0 on though is that we're not begging him to come back. We did that in 2021. Then we committed to him in 2022 and it's clear as day the FO felt like Rodgers acted like a retiring business owner who sells his company and takes the victory lap year as a "advisor" on staff. He showed up to work every day in his Tommy Bahama and khakis. If he wants back in, it's time to dust off the work uniform and truly go "all in." agree with everything except I'm not 50/50. I think the odds are much lower Rodgers would show the required humility to return to GB on the terms he would need to in order to get welcomed back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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