HerbertGOAT Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 40 minutes ago, Soggust said: We can't consider any history prior to 2022 going into 2023? Geno is a top QB going into 2023? Forget TL's rookie year. Take this year alone. Compare it to Cousin's last 3 years, for example. KC has him beat in Comp %, TD% YPG, ANY/A, Rating etc. So why am I ignoring Cousin's history again? Because Urban was a bad coach? edit - this sounds snarky in hindsight i dont really mean it like that. sorry im a dbag Cousins has 3 weapons better than anybody on the Jags and just got a top TE. Lawrence is throwing it to Christian Kirk, Zay Jones, and Travis Etienne. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhanYouDigIt Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 48 minutes ago, Soggust said: As was Baker Mayfield in 2020. He finished the second half of the season as one of the best QBs in football, with a 16-2 TD / INT (TL 14/2 over this stretch), former #1 pick who was turning around his franchise. They were getting him another year in Stefanski's system and were adding more and more talent. In fact, I recall a certain thread about him cementing himself in the top 10 after that season too. It's not crazy to reserve judgment? He had 12 total TD’s and 1 INT in the second half of 2020 (8 games). Why are you including his 5 TD game against the Bengals in week 7 lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhanYouDigIt Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 2 minutes ago, KhanYouDigIt said: He had 12 total TD’s and 1 INT in the second half of 2020 (8 games). Why are you including his 5 TD game against the Bengals in week 7 lol Trevor at 14/1 in his last 5 games and still has 3 games to go. Comparing his hot streak to Baker is interesting to say the least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmittyBacall Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 1 hour ago, AFlaccoSeagulls said: #1 offense in the NFL since he's come back from injury without an elite supporting cast. That's crazy. I have never watched Dak and thought, "this dude is special". From what I've seen he's closer to Goff than he is to the leagues elite. I mean the man has thrown 7 picks in the last 5 games. https://www.espn.com/nfl/player/gamelog/_/id/2577417/dak-prescott 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soggust Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 5 minutes ago, KhanYouDigIt said: He had 12 total TD’s and 1 INT in the second half of 2020 (8 games). Why are you including his 5 TD game against the Bengals in week 7 lol Sorry, I remember the "16-2" being quoted at me, so I just assumed it was the second half. I'm 100% wrong on that stat sorry, I didn't even search it. But does it really change anything lol? The forest from the trees is that they both were absolutely phenomenal, but it's just hard to maintain, historically. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soggust Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 12 minutes ago, HerbertGOAT said: Cousins has 3 weapons better than anybody on the Jags and just got a top TE. Lawrence is throwing it to Christian Kirk, Zay Jones, and Travis Etienne. This is a fair point, but Cousins also put up like 5k yards in Washington with trash too, right? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soko Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 19 minutes ago, KhanYouDigIt said: Lets not act like he’s putting up garbage time numbers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoFlyZone Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 12 minutes ago, SmittyBacall said: That's crazy. I have never watched Dak and thought, "this dude is special". From what I've seen he's closer to Goff than he is to the leagues elite. I mean the man has thrown 7 picks in the last 5 games. https://www.espn.com/nfl/player/gamelog/_/id/2577417/dak-prescott Don’t say you’ve “watched Dak” and then bring up the interception talk. Literally more than half of those weren’t “turnover worthy” plays. The one that lost the game for the Cowboys last Sunday came on a perfectly thrown ball that went right off his receiver’s hands for the game ending pick six. Not sure you’ve actually watched much of Dak’s game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoFlyZone Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 6 minutes ago, Soggust said: This is a fair point, but Cousins also put up like 5k yards in Washington with trash too, right? As a Dallas fan I was very happy when Washington let him go. He’s underrated at this point. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhanYouDigIt Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 5 minutes ago, Yin-Yang said: I just showed you 4 out of the 6 TD’s he threw behind two scores were in games he won. 😂. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soko Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 3 minutes ago, KhanYouDigIt said: I just showed you 4 out of the 6 TD’s he threw behind two scores were in games he won. 😂. Okay? I posted his situational stats, and it’s being interpreted as “acting like he’s putting up garbage time numbers”, lol. You guys are insecure as hell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhanYouDigIt Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 13 minutes ago, Soggust said: Sorry, I remember the "16-2" being quoted at me, so I just assumed it was the second half. I'm 100% wrong on that stat sorry, I didn't even search it. But does it really change anything lol? The forest from the trees is that they both were absolutely phenomenal, but it's just hard to maintain, historically. Does taking a 5 TD game away change anything? Uhh I would say a little bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmittyBacall Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 5 minutes ago, NoFlyZone said: Don’t say you’ve “watched Dak” and then bring up the interception talk. Literally more than half of those weren’t “turnover worthy” plays. The one that lost the game for the Cowboys last Sunday came on a perfectly thrown ball that went right off his receiver’s hands for the game ending pick six. Not sure you’ve actually watched much of Dak’s game. I've been watching him for years. I know what kind of player he is by now. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhanYouDigIt Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 3 minutes ago, Yin-Yang said: Okay? I posted his situational stats, and it’s being interpreted as “acting like he’s putting up garbage time numbers”, lol. You guys are insecure as hell. Yes and you quoted a guy that said a lot of his TD’s seem like when they are way down or close to that. And I showed you 4 of his 6 TD’s when down two scores, were in which games he won. reading is hard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soko Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, KhanYouDigIt said: Yes and you quoted a guy that said a lot of his TD’s seem like when they are way down or close to that. And I showed you 4 of his 6 TD’s when down two scores, were in which games he won. reading is hard. I provided the statistics to a guy that said something, so somehow that’s me saying Trevor throws TDs in garbage time? Makes sense if you don’t think about it. You guys are touchier than the sensitive Lamar fans a few years ago. I’ll keep stats out of this thread from this point on, wouldn’t want to t r i g g e r anyone anymore than I already have by providing facts, lol. EDIT: And no, you didn’t even provide the right information. 6 TDs were down one possession. 6 TDs were down from two possessions. 16 TDs were from behind. Meaning, with a little bit of da maff, that 4 TDs were down by more than two possessions. You provided a few from both, but not the total picture of either. Edited December 22, 2022 by Yin-Yang 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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