Scoundrel Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 Johnston needs to learn to Extend his arms 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 Just now, Scoundrel said: Johnston needs to learn to Extend his arms ...and catch with his hands ...and not have focus drop issues ...and not have body drop issues ...and not be slow off the LOS ...and run an NFL route tree None of those in a vacuum are deal breakers for me, but the body catching aspect is a major turn off and concern for me...most of which stems from me having PTSD issues with Braylon Dropwards as a Brown. Typically guys who play smaller than they are really bother me as prospects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedGold Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 5 minutes ago, MWil23 said: ...and catch with his hands ...and not have focus drop issues ...and not have body drop issues ...and not be slow off the LOS ...and run an NFL route tree None of those in a vacuum are deal breakers for me, but the body catching aspect is a major turn off and concern for me...most of which stems from me having PTSD issues with Braylon Dropwards as a Brown. Typically guys who play smaller than they are really bother me as prospects. Yeah I have no issues with his speed/size ratio. I hated how even when he had the opportunity to high point, he would shield and still bring it into his body. Not saying he can't be coached out of that, but it bugged me a great deal. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EaglesPeteC Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 Let us not be distracted from the fact that @Pickle Rick is holding up the draft 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 6 minutes ago, RedGold said: Yeah I have no issues with his speed/size ratio. I hated how even when he had the opportunity to high point, he would shield and still bring it into his body. Not saying he can't be coached out of that, but it bugged me a great deal. Yes, this is exactly where I am. I think his body position and shielding can actually be a really good thing, but that is a concern for me. CAN he high point/be taught to? That's one of those "instinctive" things for me that you more or less generally have or don't have at the WR position. My "thesis" would more or less be Dez Bryant, who had an incredible high point ability going back to OK State despite his "average/slightly above average" size...he just played a lot bigger than he was, and very similarly, Anquan Boldin was elite RAC and played "big" despite his average size. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 Oh and I had Jack Campbell as my LB1 this class...head and shoulders above a lot of other guys. I thought he'd drop a ways due to positional value, but I think very highly of him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rackcs Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 1 minute ago, MWil23 said: Oh and I had Jack Campbell as my LB1 this class...head and shoulders above a lot of other guys. I thought he'd drop a ways due to positional value, but I think very highly of him. I like him a lot too. Just kind of confused by the trade up. Felt like the danger of Campbell going probably wasn't high between that pick and the one he has now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoundrel Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 3 minutes ago, MWil23 said: Oh and I had Jack Campbell as my LB1 this class...head and shoulders above a lot of other guys. I thought he'd drop a ways due to positional value, but I think very highly of him. Same. Would have considered him at 19 planned to draft him at 26 if I still had that pick and he was there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EaglesPeteC Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 I had Jack Campbell at 45 😬 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 9 minutes ago, rackcs said: I like him a lot too. Just kind of confused by the trade up. Felt like the danger of Campbell going probably wasn't high between that pick and the one he has now. 7 minutes ago, Scoundrel said: Same. Would have considered him at 19 planned to draft him at 26 if I still had that pick and he was there. I would have said the same, but it appears as though Pickle had a good vibe there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedGold Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 I didn’t like the trade up, but I’m pretty positive Campbell will be a 10+ year starter. That has some value in this class 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whicker Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 I will refrain from making an LB comment. I will refrain from making an LB comment. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 1 minute ago, EaglesPeteC said: I had Jack Campbell at 45 😬 I had him between 35-50 depending on the draft board, but I don't fault getting a guy I'd consider to be a legit MIKE caliber starter as a 3 down player. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoundrel Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 1 minute ago, MWil23 said: I had him between 35-50 depending on the draft board, but I don't fault getting a guy I'd consider to be a legit MIKE caliber starter as a 3 down player. He was 39 for me but I was planning all kinds of reaches for various reasons in the 2nd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoundrel Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 3 minutes ago, RedGold said: I didn’t like the trade up, but I’m pretty positive Campbell will be a 10+ year starter. That has some value in this class Discord me back Tilapia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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