General Tso Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 https://twitter.com/MathBomb JSN, Zach Harrison and Jayden Reed RAS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sllim Pickens Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 15 hours ago, Karnage84 said: Plant that seed, go away for 16 hours, return to full grown trees. Good work fellas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Tso Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 4 minutes ago, Sllim Pickens said: Plant that seed, go away for 16 hours, return to full grown trees. Good work fellas. Alright it's time for your contribution. Make a Google sheet with all the prospects and their RAS x PFF scores. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karnage84 Posted March 23, 2023 Author Share Posted March 23, 2023 4 minutes ago, Sllim Pickens said: Plant that seed, go away for 16 hours, return to full grown trees. Good work fellas. Just another day on the RAS X PFF farm... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sllim Pickens Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 6 minutes ago, General Tso said: Alright it's time for your contribution. Make a Google sheet with all the prospects and their RAS x PFF scores. Didn't @Karnage84 already do this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karnage84 Posted March 23, 2023 Author Share Posted March 23, 2023 1 minute ago, Sllim Pickens said: Didn't @Karnage84 already do this? Yes lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Tso Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 1 minute ago, Karnage84 said: Yes lol I didn't see it on the google sheet from the first post. I've only seen what you posted in the threads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karnage84 Posted March 23, 2023 Author Share Posted March 23, 2023 Just now, General Tso said: I didn't see it on the google sheet from the first post. I've only seen what you posted in the threads. I didn't put it into the Google sheets, just my own Excel (and then copied into the threads) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Tso Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 14 minutes ago, Karnage84 said: I didn't put it into the Google sheets, just my own Excel (and then copied into the threads) Hmm, I might copy that into my own Google sheet. Gonna do some fun tracking during draft night, see what the Lions do vs what the "board" says. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karnage84 Posted March 23, 2023 Author Share Posted March 23, 2023 1 minute ago, General Tso said: Hmm, I might copy that into my own Google sheet. Gonna do some fun tracking during draft night, see what the Lions do vs what the "board" says. Part of the issue is all of the missing pieces from guys who don't have a complete RAS. Some of those gaps are being filled during pro days and some guys are just not going to be working out to get those numbers in (either from injury or worried about how a number will affect them). So it's a tool but it's an incomplete tool. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sllim Pickens Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 1 minute ago, Karnage84 said: Part of the issue is all of the missing pieces from guys who don't have a complete RAS. Some of those gaps are being filled during pro days and some guys are just not going to be working out to get those numbers in (either from injury or worried about how a number will affect them). So it's a tool but it's an incomplete tool. I feel like its complete enough where if a guy doesnt have a RAS or PFF score you can estimate it close enough or just determine them as outliers. Like Jamo seems low for RAS but its close enough. But overall its definitely an interesting way to look at prospects and see if there is enough correlation between the score and productivity in the NFL. Even if you just did basic analysis like 1st round picks that get their 5th year picked up compared to the RASxPFF. Or players who get a second contract at all compared to that. Or overall draft position compared to that score to see if other teams are using a similar metric/analysis. A lot you can still do with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karnage84 Posted March 23, 2023 Author Share Posted March 23, 2023 2 minutes ago, Sllim Pickens said: I feel like its complete enough where if a guy doesnt have a RAS or PFF score you can estimate it close enough or just determine them as outliers. Like Jamo seems low for RAS but its close enough. But overall its definitely an interesting way to look at prospects and see if there is enough correlation between the score and productivity in the NFL. Even if you just did basic analysis like 1st round picks that get their 5th year picked up compared to the RASxPFF. Or players who get a second contract at all compared to that. Or overall draft position compared to that score to see if other teams are using a similar metric/analysis. A lot you can still do with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sllim Pickens Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 19 minutes ago, Karnage84 said: 🤣🤣🤣 That actually wasn't intentional. I was thinking I would look at it like that and just saying your data is still valuable. But again you have to save the data for a few years or backdate the data. Which isn't asking you to do anything but now that I type it out, it will probably lead to something. lol🌾 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karnage84 Posted March 23, 2023 Author Share Posted March 23, 2023 1 minute ago, Sllim Pickens said: 🤣🤣🤣 That actually wasn't intentional. I was thinking I would look at it like that and just saying your data is still valuable. But again you have to save the data for a few years or backdate the data. Which isn't asking you to do anything but now that I type it out, it will probably lead to something. lol🌾 I'm going to try the top 10 for the past couple years and see if there's anything to it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karnage84 Posted March 23, 2023 Author Share Posted March 23, 2023 (edited) RAS PFF SCORE NFL PFF 1 JAC Travon Walker DE 9.99 72.8 727.27 60.3 2 DET Aidan Hutchinson DE 9.88 93.9 927.73 80.7 3 HOU Derek Stingley Jr. CB 8.99 66.6 598.73 49.1 4 NYJ Sauce Gardner † CB 86.5 0.00 87.9 5 NYG Kayvon Thibodeaux DE 9.63 83.8 806.99 71.9 6 CAR Ikem Ekwonu OT 8.49 91.6 777.68 65.3 7 NYG Evan Neal OT 85.3 0.00 44.1 8 ATL Drake London WR 91.3 0.00 83.2 9 SEA Charles Cross OT 7.56 86.6 654.70 63.7 10 NYJ Garrett Wilson WR 7.77 84.1 653.46 82.7 Edited March 23, 2023 by Karnage84 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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