Sllim Pickens Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 15 hours ago, Karnage84 said: This only makes my desire for Jack Campbell to the Lions even worse.... Yeah, the only knock on him is his 40 time. I really hope we snag him but I feel like its less likely with us resigning Anzalone to such a big deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Tso Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 @Karnage84Thanks for doing that. It'll be interesting to see who Holmes drafts and compare it to the data. Now I wonder how his 21 and 22 drafts would look if we did spreadsheets on those guys 🤣 Just confirms that AT Perry and Emmanuel Forbes are 2 of my guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karnage84 Posted March 22, 2023 Author Share Posted March 22, 2023 44 minutes ago, Sllim Pickens said: Yeah, the only knock on him is his 40 time. I really hope we snag him but I feel like its less likely with us resigning Anzalone to such a big deal. It would come down to how the Lions truly feel about Barnes. I think Rodrigo has proven himself enough year 1 to be given the benefit of the doubt and allow him to develop in year 2. Where is Barnes at and can he take that next step to take meaningful reps away from AA and/or not be a big drop off when he subs in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karnage84 Posted March 22, 2023 Author Share Posted March 22, 2023 Just now, General Tso said: @Karnage84Thanks for doing that. It'll be interesting to see who Holmes drafts and compare it to the data. Now I wonder how his 21 and 22 drafts would look if we did spreadsheets on those guys 🤣 Just confirms that AT Perry and Emmanuel Forbes are 2 of my guys. I'm going to start submitting time sheets to you lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sllim Pickens Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 10 minutes ago, General Tso said: @Karnage84Thanks for doing that. It'll be interesting to see who Holmes drafts and compare it to the data. Now I wonder how his 21 and 22 drafts would look if WE did spreadsheets on those guys 🤣 Just confirms that AT Perry and Emmanuel Forbes are 2 of my guys. Lol, that passive aggressive manager wording there. Poor @Karnage84 because now he is probably interested in that and will spend the time going back and doing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karnage84 Posted March 22, 2023 Author Share Posted March 22, 2023 14 minutes ago, General Tso said: @Karnage84Thanks for doing that. It'll be interesting to see who Holmes drafts and compare it to the data. Now I wonder how his 21 and 22 drafts would look if we did spreadsheets on those guys 🤣 Just confirms that AT Perry and Emmanuel Forbes are 2 of my guys. DRAFT PICK PFF RAS Round 1 (3): CB Jeffrey Okudah. 8.96 Round 2 (35): RB D'Andre Swift. 7.56 Round 3 (67): EDGE Julian Okwara. Round 3 (75): G Jonah Jackson. 6.49 Round 4 (121): G Logan Stenberg. 6.15 Round 5 (166): WR Quintez Cephus. 4.51 Round 5 (172): RB Jason Huntley. 8.07 Round 6 (197): DI John Penisini. AVG 6.96 2021 Pick 1 — OT Penei Sewell. 8.99 Pick 2 — DT Levi Onwuzurike 8.73 Pick 3 — DT Alim McNeill 8.51 Pick 4 — CB Ifeatu Melifonwu 9.69 Pick 5 — WR Amon-Ra St. Brown 7.12 Pick 6 — LB Derrick Barnes 8.43 Pick 7 — RB Jermar Jefferson 2.23 AVG 7.67 2022 Round 1, Pick 2: Aidan Hutchinson, EDGE, Michigan. 9.88 Round 1, pick 12: Jameson Williams, WR, Alabama. Round 2, pick 46: Josh Paschal, EDGE, Kentucky. 9.7 Round 3, pick 97: Kerby Joseph, S, Illinois. Round 6, pick 217: James Houston, EDGE, Jackson 7.93 AVG 9.17 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karnage84 Posted March 22, 2023 Author Share Posted March 22, 2023 @General Tso I would need to pull up the PFF scores to finish that off, which is a little bit of extra work but I'll probably do it since we're halfway there. So Holmes has definitely implemented a more athletic approach. Amon-Ra and Jermar were anomalies in his overall approach. He also did take a couple guys who had incomplete testing numbers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karnage84 Posted March 22, 2023 Author Share Posted March 22, 2023 4 minutes ago, Sllim Pickens said: Lol, that passive aggressive manager wording there. Poor @Karnage84 because now he is probably interested in that and will spend the time going back and doing it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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General Tso Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 Just now, Karnage84 said: @General Tso I would need to pull up the PFF scores to finish that off, which is a little bit of extra work but I'll probably do it since we're halfway there. So Holmes has definitely implemented a more athletic approach. Amon-Ra and Jermar were anomalies in his overall approach. He also did take a couple guys who had incomplete testing numbers. 5 minutes ago, Sllim Pickens said: Lol, that passive aggressive manager wording there. Poor @Karnage84 because now he is probably interested in that and will spend the time going back and doing it. Well thanks! I hope it fulfills your own curiosity haha. Yea ARSB is definitely an outlier, but obviously I'm thankful that we still took him. I think there's probably intangibles they look for that also factor into this like football character and intelligence. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karnage84 Posted March 22, 2023 Author Share Posted March 22, 2023 (edited) Was missing Rodrigo, Mitchell and Lucas (see below) Edited March 22, 2023 by Karnage84 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karnage84 Posted March 22, 2023 Author Share Posted March 22, 2023 @General Tso @Sllim Pickens ^^^^^^^^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Tso Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 Thanks. Didn't know Houston had a 95 grade. Even if his competition was lower, him dropping to the 6th is crazy to me. Now I really don't understand what they saw in Barnes, enough to trade up for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karnage84 Posted March 22, 2023 Author Share Posted March 22, 2023 DRAFT PICK PFF RAS SCORE Round 1 (3): CB Jeffrey Okudah. 81.0 8.96 725.76 Round 2 (35): RB D'Andre Swift. 80.0 7.56 604.80 Round 3 (67): EDGE Julian Okwara. 79.2 Round 3 (75): G Jonah Jackson. 78.7 6.49 510.76 Round 4 (121): G Logan Stenberg. 75.6 6.15 464.94 Round 5 (166): WR Quintez Cephus. 85.1 4.51 383.80 Round 5 (172): RB Jason Huntley. 80.9 8.07 652.86 Round 6 (197): DI John Penisini. 83.4 AVG 80.5 6.96 557.15 2021 PFF RAS SCORE Pick 1 — OT Penei Sewell. 96.9 8.99 871.13 Pick 2 — DT Levi Onwuzurike 81.4 8.73 710.62 Pick 3 — DT Alim McNeill 90.7 8.51 771.86 Pick 4 — CB Ifeatu Melifonwu 76.8 9.69 744.19 Pick 5 — WR Amon-Ra St. Brown 71.7 7.12 510.50 Pick 6 — LB Derrick Barnes 57.7 8.43 486.41 Pick 7 — RB Jermar Jefferson 79.3 2.23 176.84 AVG 79.21 7.67 610.22 2022 PFF RAS SCORE Round 1, Pick 2: Aidan Hutchinson, EDGE, Michigan. 93.90 9.88 927.73 Round 1, pick 12: Jameson Williams, WR, Alabama. 79.90 Round 2, pick 46: Josh Paschal, EDGE, Kentucky. 90.00 9.70 873.00 Round 3, pick 97: Kerby Joseph, S, Illinois. 90.40 James Mitchell 61.40 Malcolm Rodriguez 85.50 9.48 810.54 Round 6, pick 217: James Houston, EDGE, Jackson 95.00 7.93 753.35 Chase Lucas 60.50 8.89 537.85 AVG 82.08 9.18 780.49 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Tso Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 Early rounds looks like 700+, but I would expect that from most early round prospects. Rodrigo and Houston look like steals based on this. It reinforces what Campbell says though - they look at the tape and the combine is only there to reconfirm what they saw. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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