squire12 Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 @Trojan @sparky151 was Joyner signed as a UFA in this TCMD? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparky151 Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 yes, several rounds ago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squire12 Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 Just now, sparky151 said: yes, several rounds ago Pretty sure you can't trade players acquired via FA in this 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trojan Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 Just now, sparky151 said: yes, several rounds ago oh I don't know if it's allowed then because (even though he's like 1mil) it's potentially cap manipulation (ie you pay a fat bonus, then flip for value from eating cap in bonus) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trojan Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 @ny92mike I think we need help clarifying Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparky151 Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 Oh. He's not likely to make our roster after we added Tashaun Gipson. Jacksonville seems to be collecting former Seminoles so it seemed like a good spot for him. He didn't get a signing bonus and is on vet min so there's no cap manipulation angle here. If it's not allowed then Jacksonville may get him on waivers in August or September. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squire12 Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 2 minutes ago, Trojan said: oh I don't know if it's allowed then because (even though he's like 1mil) it's potentially cap manipulation (ie you pay a fat bonus, then flip for value from eating cap in bonus) Just now, sparky151 said: Oh. He's not likely to make our roster after we added Tashaun Gipson. Jacksonville seems to be collecting former Seminoles so it seemed like a good spot for him. He didn't get a signing bonus and is on vet min so there's no cap manipulation angle here. If it's not allowed then Jacksonville may get him on waivers in August or September. It's pretty clear in the guidelines Quote Players you are NOT PERMITTED to trade. Players that would put your current or following year’s salary cap in the negative Signed Exclusive Rights Free Agents - ERFA Tagged Players (prior to tender offer sheet deadline) Signed Restricted Free Agents - RFA Players acquired through tendered offer sheets. Players acquired through free agency - UFA, UDFA, Waiver Wire The concept for these restrictions are based on the CBA section, “under the good faith rule”. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparky151 Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 Ok, that's clear enough. Those rules don't exist in real life so tag and trades are legal in the NFL but I can see the potential for abuse in TCMD. In this case we were doing Joyner and the Jags a favor helping him find a landing spot since we added a better player at his position later once that player's price had dropped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trojan Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 3 minutes ago, squire12 said: It's pretty clear in the guidelines all good, @sparky151 and I will cancel the trade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTTRUTH Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 Colts are on deck. Would entertain a small trade back, if anyone is interested. I won't wait very long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squire12 Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 8 minutes ago, sparky151 said: Ok, that's clear enough. Those rules don't exist in real life so tag and trades are legal in the NFL but I can see the potential for abuse in TCMD. In this case we were doing Joyner and the Jags a favor helping him find a landing spot since we added a better player at his position later once that player's price had dropped. I agree the process IRL is different. TCMD also has players getting signed with next to 0 in signing bonus which is more unlikely vs IRL. I think in future with altered APY and signing bonus asking prices, this could be re-visited. Signing bonus probably needs to be a higher % of what the player is asking in APY. something that starts around 30% signing bonus, that drops slightly with each round of UFA. A player asking for $20M APY on a 5 year contract is typically getting a decent % of that in signing bonus/other guarantees 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 41 minutes ago, Forge said: Give me that short shuttle There goes one of my three. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTTRUTH Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 Actually @Daniel is up AFTER your next pick @LuckyNumber11 . I’m otc now, you again, then Tennessee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeT14 Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 @RTTRUTH otc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTTRUTH Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 No offers for my otc pick yet. I'll give it 10 more minutes while I get my picture ready. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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