NYRaider Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 2 hours ago, BayRaider said: Huge downgrade from Moore. Hardman is trash… one WR I’m confident looked ok because of Mahomes, the best QB in the league. Thankfully Aaron Rodgers isn't too shabby. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodo Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 3 hours ago, Louis Friend said: Aaron Rodgers GM special Tbf, if I had any friends I'd make sure they get paid too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 3 hours ago, Louis Friend said: Aaron Rodgers GM special Worked pretty good for Brady in Tampa Bay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kparty15 Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 4 hours ago, beekay414 said: It would be restructured and he's familiar with MLF's offense from his time with the Titans. We need a vet in that room and Davis is as likely as anyone out there currently. A MILF offense you say? Sounds like something that Zach Wilson would excel in! 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFlaccoSeagulls Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 1 hour ago, NYRaider said: Moore has averaged 38 ypg over his first two seasons, is he really that good? He has flashed but those flashes have come in spades. He's also super young and seems to have team cancer traits. Hardman / Lazard have been steady contributors for two of the best offenses in the league and understand what it takes to win. Rodgers struggled last year with young WRs. Moore is playing with the worst group of QB's you've ever seen and was still producing and passes the eye test. He's absolutely good. Lazard and Hardman are the definion of JAGs 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DawgX Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 37 minutes ago, Dodo said: Tbf, if I had any friends I'd make sure they get paid too I'll be your friend. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakuvious Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 1 hour ago, NYRaider said: Moore has averaged 38 ypg over his first two seasons, is he really that good? He has flashed but those flashes have come in spades. He's also super young and seems to have team cancer traits. Hardman / Lazard have been steady contributors for two of the best offenses in the league and understand what it takes to win. Rodgers struggled last year with young WRs. Anyone want to take a guess at the career yards per game for Hardman and Lazard? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 9 minutes ago, AFlaccoSeagulls said: Moore is playing with the worst group of QB's you've ever seen and was still producing and passes the eye test. He's absolutely good. Lazard and Hardman are the definion of JAGs I think he's talented for sure and their QB situation hasn't done him any favors. But we've seen guys like Chris Olave, Terry McClaurin, Kyle Pitts, Garrett Wilson, and Jaylen Waddle thrive as rookies with suboptimal QB situations. His numbers actually got worse from year 1 to year 2 while his teammate was able to win OROY playing in the exact same conditions. It also doesn't help that he publicly criticized the team, cursed out their coach, and sat out for two weeks because he wasn't getting the ball. The leaders on the Jets team (Williams / Sauce) took jabs at him on social media after he stepped away. They're JAGs but they've produced more than Moore and have contributed to winning games significantly more than Moore has. The plan is clearly to feature Garrett Wilson in the passing game and they added two veterans that can fill specific roles that compliment his game. Lazard as a big bodied possession guy and Hardman as the deep threat with game breaking speed. They've both proven that they can be good complimentary pieces (700 yard guys), they've both been around winning their entire careers, and they should fit perfectly with Rodgers in the locker room. The Jets goal is to win a Super Bowl, I don't think Rodgers or the staff had any interest in hearing Moore cry about a lack of targets again. It also sounds like moving on from Moore opens up the door to potentially sign OBJ or to keep Coleman who Rodgers was swooning about a couple of days ago. Look at his pass catchers during his back to back MVP years. He had Adams (alpa #1), Lazard (big possession guy), and MVS (home run threat). 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 16 minutes ago, Jakuvious said: Anyone want to take a guess at the career yards per game for Hardman and Lazard? So their career statistics are pretty similar but Moore's numbers actually got worse this year while Lazard (800 yards) had a career year and Hardman (700 yards) is coming off of a career year (when healthy) as well. The Packers and Chiefs have had two of the best offenses in the league and both guys know and understand their roles. I just don't see how you can call them JAGs but claim that Moore is more than that at this point in his career. My post above explains it better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soko Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 1 hour ago, NYRaider said: Lazard as a big bodied possession guy and Hardman as the deep threat with game breaking speed. Hardman sucks deep. He’s been a gadget player that you have to manufacture touches for. Lazard was 1 of 13 WRs in the league last year with 100 or less targets and 6 or more drops. PFF has him 47th in terms of drop rate and 58th in contested catch success. If the plan’s for Hardman to be the deep threat and Lazard to be the possession receiver, then NY’s in huge trouble. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamq Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 7 minutes ago, Yin-Yang said: If the plan’s for Hardman to be the deep threat and Lazard to be the possession receiver, then NY’s in huge trouble Lazard will be the deep threat, Hardman will be the guy who gets the Amari Rodgers treatment while Randall Cobb takes all the slot snaps 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 28 minutes ago, adamq said: Lazard will be the deep threat, Hardman will be the guy who gets the Amari Rodgers treatment while Randall Cobb takes all the slot snaps There it is. OBJ is supposedly still in play as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamq Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 16 minutes ago, NYRaider said: There it is. OBJ is supposedly still in play as well. Maybe between him and Cobb, they can get 17 games of a healthy wr3 Conklin will get fed, fantasy folks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 2 minutes ago, adamq said: Maybe between him and Cobb, they can get 17 games of a healthy wr3 Conklin will get fed, fantasy folks I don't think AR gave Corey Davis a shoutout just for ish and giggles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiefer Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 1 hour ago, Yin-Yang said: Hardman sucks deep. He’s been a gadget player that you have to manufacture touches for. Lazard was 1 of 13 WRs in the league last year with 100 or less targets and 6 or more drops. PFF has him 47th in terms of drop rate and 58th in contested catch success. If the plan’s for Hardman to be the deep threat and Lazard to be the possession receiver, then NY’s in huge trouble. Hardman is a deep threat receiver though, he’s not great because he can’t high point or fight for the ball, but his speed has to be accounted for which is half the battle in the game of strategy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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