NYRaider Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 3 hours ago, Humble_Beast said: You like touchdowns? I do He had 6 TD against Tennessee and 12 TD in their other 12 games combined. 37 TD / 20 INT in 25 games at South Carolina is mid. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humble_Beast Posted February 28 Author Share Posted February 28 8 hours ago, NYRaider said: He had 6 TD against Tennessee and 12 TD in their other 12 games combined. 37 TD / 20 INT in 25 games at South Carolina is mid. Played behind a terrible OLine. Didn’t play with first round wideouts like Jayden Daniels either. Look it up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 Just now, Humble_Beast said: Played behind a terrible OLine. Didn’t play with first round wideouts like Jayden Daniels either. Look it up Leggette? He’s already getting DC treatment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucksavage1 Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 14 hours ago, big_palooka said: He didn't get "beat out". He was the starter and came into the season as a Heisman candidate. He failed miserably and famously got booed off the field. Any backup QB would have been called to action. It was toxic at Oklahoma. They hated him. He was a head case. The fact they had the #1 recruit just fueled it. Losing the starting job 3 years ago to the projected #1 pick and Heisman trophy winner is not a negative. It would happened to virtually every QB the last 3 seasons in NCAAF. Any backup? What kind of statement is that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 6 minutes ago, bucksavage1 said: Losing the starting job 3 years ago to the projected #1 pick and Heisman trophy winner is not a negative. It would happened to virtually every QB the last 3 seasons in NCAAF. Any backup? What kind of statement is that? Rattler went into the 2021 season as the Heisman Trophy favorite https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/2021-heisman-trophy-odds-top-picks-predictions-college-football-expert-fading-d-j-uiagalelei-in-best-bets/ Quote Quarterbacks are getting the best 2021 Heisman Trophy odds, with Oklahoma's Spencer Rattler heading the list at 11-2 odds, according to Caesars Sportsbook. He crapped the bed and got benched, Caleb being great wasn't a huge factor, it was more so Rattler being terrible. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 14 hours ago, jpaulthe1st said: Rattler has Top 2-3 overall arm talent in this draft and is a great athlete (starred on a state championship basketball winning team at PG) though not an explosive athlete (similar to Mahomes). I would love to grab him in the 3rd and groom him for a year or two behind Russell Wilson or Fields. The 2nd is a little too rich for me though Rattler has a better arm than Caleb, Maye, or Milton? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 17 hours ago, FloydFan said: Everyone gushing over Rattler didn’t watch USC football at all this or last year. I’m convinced of it. 14 hours ago, big_palooka said: 1000%. They are reading twitter comments and running with them. SEC fans know. They saw a former NFL scout compare him to Mahomes (Daniel Kelly, dude a clown) and he became everyone favorite prospect. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humble_Beast Posted February 28 Author Share Posted February 28 Rattler : A level arm, athletic, flashed in college, was immature but mature in South Carolina, same size as Caleb Williams Final Verdict: if he progresses as a field reader, could be a really good starting QB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpaulthe1st Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 1 hour ago, NYRaider said: Rattler has a better arm than Caleb, Maye, or Milton? He has better overall arm talent than Milton meaning he can make all the throws and not just throw the ball 95 yards down the field. He is also on par with Maye and Williams. That is easily apparent if you watch the smallest amount of tape on him. He may have question marks and issues (which is why he’s being talked about as a day 2 pick) but arm talent is not one of them. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big_palooka Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 (edited) 7 hours ago, NYRaider said: Rattler went into the 2021 season as the Heisman Trophy favorite https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/2021-heisman-trophy-odds-top-picks-predictions-college-football-expert-fading-d-j-uiagalelei-in-best-bets/ He crapped the bed and got benched, Caleb being great wasn't a huge factor, it was more so Rattler being terrible. Thanks. Not sure how @bucksavage1 is trying to defend this. Rattler didn't lose the job to Caleb. It had nothing to do with Caleb and everything to do with Rattler's awful performances. Edited February 28 by big_palooka 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big_palooka Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 It's funny how the Nix and Pennix are to old crowd miss that Rattler will be 24 as a rookie. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devilshark69 Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 There are 6 qbs worth a look in my very amateur opinion.....then there's everyone else...lol. the end. Don't get me wrong, there's some later round developmental guys (isn't there always....😉😉) but for me personally if it's not one of the six, I'm gonna be disappointed. And no, I don't care which of the six (they all have excellent-decent potential) as long as we don't reach or give up way too much in a trade up. We gotta take a swing. Period. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steins Gate Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 1 hour ago, Devilshark69 said: There are 6 qbs worth a look in my very amateur opinion.....then there's everyone else...lol. the end. Don't get me wrong, there's some later round developmental guys (isn't there always....😉😉) but for me personally if it's not one of the six, I'm gonna be disappointed. And no, I don't care which of the six (they all have excellent-decent potential) as long as we don't reach or give up way too much in a trade up. We gotta take a swing. Period. Agreed mostly. Caleb is the only one that I would object to (The Raiders have no chance anyways). I could live with the rest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 8 hours ago, big_palooka said: Thanks. Not sure how @bucksavage1 is trying to defend this. Rattler didn't lose the job to Caleb. It had nothing to do with Caleb and everything to do with Rattler's awful performances. The thing with Rattler is that his career was supposed to follow the trajectory that Caleb Williams career actually did. He was recruited by Lincoln as the #1 QB in his class (so was Caleb), had good productions with high end flashes in his first year as a starter, and came into his second season as a starter as the Heisman favorite and projected #1 overall pick. He just couldn't live up to the expectations and seems to be somewhat of a bad apple. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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