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4 hours ago, Captain Relax said:

Even if a GM does his/her job perfectly there is no guarantee that the draft pick will work out.

I think a major part of draft success is luck...and as every Vikings fan knows, luck has rarely been dressed in purple and gold.

Kwesi could’ve just picked Kyle Hamilton or Jordan Davis and things would’ve been just fine. To his credit, he did redeem himself with last year’s draft as we got Addison, Blackmon and Pace. Hopefully this year’s draft is even better. 

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Say the draft falls in a way that has us selecting a QB at 1.11 whether its McCarthy or even Penix. What do we do follow it up with at 1.23, do we take advantage of this deep Oline class or do we grab the best defensive available?

I would be ecstatic to walk out of the 1st round with.

1.11 - QB

1.23 - Jackson Powers-Johnson or Graham Barton 

Build a power OL for the new QB, let Risner walk and recoup that 3rd round comp without worrying about needing to cut a potential depth role player.

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37 minutes ago, BWG VIKE said:

Say the draft falls in a way that has us selecting a QB at 1.11 whether its McCarthy or even Penix. What do we do follow it up with at 1.23, do we take advantage of this deep Oline class or do we grab the best defensive available?

I would be ecstatic to walk out of the 1st round with.

1.11 - QB

1.23 - Jackson Powers-Johnson or Graham Barton 

Build a power OL for the new QB, let Risner walk and recoup that 3rd round comp without worrying about needing to cut a potential depth role player.

My guess is they didn't take QB at 11.... But take OL or DL there, and QB at 23....

But yes, I want Powers Johnson

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20 hours ago, swede700 said:

I don't know exactly know why, but it seems to me that Spencer Rattler would be the ideal QB for New England.  So, I think it would be ideal for them to punt on one of the top 3 QBs and use their 2nd rd pick to take their QB instead (yes, I could end up seeing Rattler going ahead of either Nix or Penix).

Is he our ideal QB because he doesn’t need any weapons, or an OL to function?

I do think we ought to build our roster a bit this year before inserting a crash dummy at QB

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don't know how i feel about Daniels any more....

he was the first QB i latched on to and wanted, then he got "discovered" and moved up to the #2 or 3 slot. so much for that, i figured, and then we did the Houston trade.

so are you guys high on him? if Williams, Maye, and McCarthy all went quickly and Daniels was the only one left of the top four, would you attempt to trade up for him?

my concern is his slighter frame and the bigger, faster hits he'll take in the NFL. is that a concern or not?

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Jayden Daniels is the dual-threat dice roll in this year's draft class.

A five-year starter dating back to his days at Arizona State, Daniels' superpower is his athleticism. He has home run speed and a ton of burst and flexibility to wiggle out of the pocket and around defenders in space. No other quarterback comes close to Daniels as a rushing threat and athlete in this class.

As a passer, Daniels handles himself like an experienced vet. He plays with a calm demeanor in the pocket, which you can see both in his quiet footwork and in his fearlessness under pressure. Daniels is also a stable processor. He might throw himself into coverage versus rotated coverages at times, but he generally plays with good discipline and timing, and he gets the ball to the right man.

Daniels' arm talent and accuracy is a mixed bag. On one hand, he's a phenomenal deep thrower in rhythm. He regularly drops it in the bucket without needing his receivers to break stride. However, Daniels' arm strength and accuracy are less dangerous to other parts of the field. He doesn't always have the velocity to fit tight windows, and his accuracy in the 1-20 yard range comes and goes. Daniels' accuracy especially falls off when he's forced to throw out of rhythm or late in the down.

Overall, Daniels has an exciting floor as a prospect. He is a veteran-like presence in the pocket, and he's far and away the best athlete in the class at the position. Daniels' average arm talent and inconsistent accuracy may limit his ceiling, but it's hard to imagine him totally flaming out. Daniels would be best in an offense that leans into his rushing ability and vertical passing.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10090917-jayden-daniels-nfl-draft-2024-scouting-report-for-lsu-qb

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I probably wouldn't trade up for him...I'd just hope he'd fall.  My concerns have always been not only the frame, but character (there's probably nothing to it, but I still have questions), and that they'd likely have to change some of their offensive scheme to suit his skillset. 

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Now that the NFL’s teams know that a revolutionary new kickoff rule is coming, they can commence planning for it.

Draft boards surely will be reconfigured, given the sudden resurrection of what had become a dead play. And it won’t just be players with proven skill in the return game. Teams will need players who will thrive in the cramped, broken-field space created by the new configuration.

Beyond the draft, the new kickoff will impact roster decisions on game day. Teams might use more linebackers and safeties, who will become potentially key pieces of the 10-man alignment that will be charged with shooting through the gaps and getting to the return specialist.

https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/new-kickoff-rule-could-dramatically-alter-draft-boards

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37 minutes ago, vike daddy said:

don't know how i feel about Daniels any more....

he was the first QB i latched on to and wanted, then he got "discovered" and moved up to the #2 or 3 slot. so much for that, i figured, and then we did the Houston trade.

so are you guys high on him? if Williams, Maye, and McCarthy all went quickly and Daniels was the only one left of the top four, would you attempt to trade up for him?

my concern is his slighter frame and the bigger, faster hits he'll take in the NFL. is that a concern or not?

Other than his Bridgewateresque build, I would certainly take him.  He has tremendous skills he just needs to learn to be judicious to know when to be aggressive in running and taking hits, and when to be smart and protect himself. Hopefully,  he learns sooner than later he's not Josh Allen or Lamar Jackson.

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39 minutes ago, swede700 said:

I probably wouldn't trade up for him...I'd just hope he'd fall.  My concerns have always been not only the frame, but character (there's probably nothing to it, but I still have questions), and that they'd likely have to change some of their offensive scheme to suit his skillset. 

can't see him getting past the Giants at 6....

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On KFAN FM 100.3, Minnesota Vikings Head Coach Kevin O’Connell spoke highly of Jayden Daniels yesterday morning. He believes he can thrive in a pocket passing system:

“No, I think he absolutely can. I think he’s proven that. When you really dive into his tape, that’s one of the exciting things about a player like Jayden Daniels.”

 

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37 minutes ago, vike daddy said:

Now that the NFL’s teams know that a revolutionary new kickoff rule is coming, they can commence planning for it.

Draft boards surely will be reconfigured, given the sudden resurrection of what had become a dead play. And it won’t just be players with proven skill in the return game. Teams will need players who will thrive in the cramped, broken-field space created by the new configuration.

Beyond the draft, the new kickoff will impact roster decisions on game day. Teams might use more linebackers and safeties, who will become potentially key pieces of the 10-man alignment that will be charged with shooting through the gaps and getting to the return specialist.

https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/new-kickoff-rule-could-dramatically-alter-draft-boards

I likened a strategy that could potentially be used to be similar to Flroes' blitzing scheme from last year.  I think ultimately, the ST unit is going to have to have a few guys drop back in case the returner gets through the initial wave, just so they don't leave the kicker on an island. 

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