LAOJoe Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 49 minutes ago, TL-TwoWinsAway said: Hey Salsa people: who should our QB be? It seems like it's between Cousins, Herbert and Tua, and, frankly, I'm not in love with any of them. Each is high-turnover, and I don't like our chances if we're turning the ball over against Rodgers or Mahomes. Discuss. Your QB is the dark horse based just on turnovers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TL-TwoWinsAway Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 4 minutes ago, LAOJoe said: Your QB is the dark horse based just on turnovers. Which, there's a zero percent chance I'm keeping Tannehill, so I don't want him to be the QB for my own benefit. His turnover numbers this season were fantastic, but we need to win to give our players any sort of chance at having a reduced cost. I don't know if he's the right guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAOJoe Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 (edited) 4 Guys. Anyone else receiving votes would be sus. They are simply by team order in the stats page. I'm not sure who my odd-man out is. Ryan Tannehill [16 GS]: 308/494 (62.35%, 95.19 Rating) for 3,639 yards, 23 touchdowns, 6 interceptions. 44 carries for 175 yards (3.98 YPC, 18 LNG), 1 touchdown, 1 fumble.Tua Tagovailoa [16 GS]: 359/556 (64.57%, 97.83 Rating) for 4,256 yards, 28 touchdowns, 9 interceptions. 49 carries for 113 yards (2.31 YPC, 12 LNG), 1 touchdown, 6 fumbles.Kirk Cousins [16 GS]: 344/557 (61.76%, 100.62 Rating) for 4,552 yards, 33 touchdowns, 9 interceptions. 34 carries for 37 yards (1.09 YPC, 8 LNG), 0 touchdowns, 6 fumbles.Justin Herbert [16 GS]: 340/539 (63.08%, 99.10 Rating) for 4,190 yards, 32 touchdowns, 10 interceptions. 38 carries for 245 yards (6.45 YPC, 17 LNG), 1 touchdown, 6 fumbles. Edited August 29, 2023 by LAOJoe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TL-TwoWinsAway Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 (edited) 14 minutes ago, LAOJoe said: 4 Guys. Anyone else receiving votes would be sus. They are simply by team order in the stats page. I'm not sure who my odd-man out is. Ryan Tannehill [16 GS]: 308/494 (62.35%, 95.19 Rating) for 3,639 yards, 23 touchdowns, 6 interceptions. 44 carries for 175 yards (3.98 YPC, 18 LNG), 1 touchdown, 1 fumble.Tua Tagovailoa [16 GS]: 359/556 (64.57%, 97.83 Rating) for 4,256 yards, 28 touchdowns, 9 interceptions. 49 carries for 113 yards (2.31 YPC, 12 LNG), 1 touchdown, 6 fumbles.Kirk Cousins [16 GS]: 344/557 (61.76%, 100.62 Rating) for 4,552 yards, 33 touchdowns, 9 interceptions. 34 carries for 37 yards (1.09 YPC, 8 LNG), 0 touchdowns, 6 fumbles.Justin Herbert [16 GS]: 340/539 (63.08%, 99.10 Rating) for 4,190 yards, 32 touchdowns, 10 interceptions. 38 carries for 245 yards (6.45 YPC, 17 LNG), 1 touchdown, 6 fumbles. I'd even add Hurts to the list, as I like his rushing ability. Those players, sorted by rating: FNAME LNAME GS COMPL COMPL% RATING YARDS TDS INTS CAR YARDS YPC TDS FUM TPTPG Kirk Cousins 16 344/557 (61.76%, 100.62 4,552 33 9 34 37 (1.09 0 6 0.9375 Justin Herbert 16 340/539 (63.08%, 99.1 4,190 32 10 38 245 (6.45 1 6 1 Tua Tagovailoa 16 359/556 (64.57%, 97.83 4,256 28 9 49 113 (2.31 1 6 0.9375 Jalen Hurts 16 295/475 (62.11%, 97.71 3,642 27 8 80 639 (7.99 2 6 0.875 Ryan Tannehill 16 308/494 (62.35%, 95.19 3,639 23 6 44 175 (3.98 1 1 0.4375 Those players, sorted by completion percentage: FNAME LNAME GS COMPL COMPL% RATING YARDS TDS INTS CAR YARDS YPC TDS FUM TPTPG Tua Tagovailoa 16 359/556 (64.57%, 97.83 4,256 28 9 49 113 (2.31 1 6 0.9375 Justin Herbert 16 340/539 (63.08%, 99.1 4,190 32 10 38 245 (6.45 1 6 1 Ryan Tannehill 16 308/494 (62.35%, 95.19 3,639 23 6 44 175 (3.98 1 1 0.4375 Jalen Hurts 16 295/475 (62.11%, 97.71 3,642 27 8 80 639 (7.99 2 6 0.875 Kirk Cousins 16 344/557 (61.76%, 100.62 4,552 33 9 34 37 (1.09 0 6 0.9375 Those players, sorted by "total potential turnovers per game": FNAME LNAME GS COMPL COMPL% RATING YARDS TDS INTS CAR YARDS YPC TDS FUM TPTPG Ryan Tannehill 16 308/494 (62.35%, 95.19 3,639 23 6 44 175 (3.98 1 1 0.4375 Jalen Hurts 16 295/475 (62.11%, 97.71 3,642 27 8 80 639 (7.99 2 6 0.875 Tua Tagovailoa 16 359/556 (64.57%, 97.83 4,256 28 9 49 113 (2.31 1 6 0.9375 Kirk Cousins 16 344/557 (61.76%, 100.62 4,552 33 9 34 37 (1.09 0 6 0.9375 Justin Herbert 16 340/539 (63.08%, 99.1 4,190 32 10 38 245 (6.45 1 6 1 It's really not a clear-cut choice, in my opinion. Edited August 29, 2023 by TL-TwoWinsAway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAOJoe Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 I wouldn't be opposed but he's my clear #5 at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TL-TwoWinsAway Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 3 minutes ago, LAOJoe said: I wouldn't be opposed but he's my clear #5 at least. Yeah, fourth lowest in rating, fourth lowest in completion percentage and still turning the ball over frequently isn't ideal. Tua might be the guy, tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EaglesPeteC Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 The fact that my season ended with me being unable to pick up a 4th and 1 with Hurts and Sirianni is just a kick in the nards 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingram Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 2 hours ago, TL-TwoWinsAway said: Hey Salsa people: who should our QB be? It seems like it's between Cousins, Herbert and Tua, and, frankly, I'm not in love with any of them. Each is high-turnover, and I don't like our chances if we're turning the ball over against Rodgers or Mahomes. Discuss. Kirk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TL-TwoWinsAway Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 1 minute ago, Kingram said: Kirk Based on the numbers above? I can't say I agree. The worst completion percentage and tied for the second most potential turnovers per game. I don't think that wins it for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuskieTitan Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 1 hour ago, TL-TwoWinsAway said: Based on the numbers above? I can't say I agree. The worst completion percentage and tied for the second most potential turnovers per game. I don't think that wins it for us. Perhaps your conference should draft better quarterbacks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TL-TwoWinsAway Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 3 minutes ago, RuskieTitan said: Perhaps your conference should draft better quarterbacks. We had one. Some would say, even the best one. He was traded away for peanuts. (It is wild how stacked some positions are within each conference.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAOJoe Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 I submitted the other half of my ballot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingram Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 4 hours ago, TL-TwoWinsAway said: Based on the numbers above? I can't say I agree. The worst completion percentage and tied for the second most potential turnovers per game. I don't think that wins it for us. ??? He has less turnovers than everyone but Ryan Tannehill. You really arguing Tanny should start the pro bowl game? Kirk has the best stats and his team is deep in the playoffs. What a nit picky argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TL-TwoWinsAway Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 1 minute ago, Kingram said: ??? He has less turnovers than everyone but Ryan Tannehill. You really arguing Tanny should start the pro bowl game? Kirk has the best stats and his team is deep in the playoffs. What a nit picky argument. Cousins has fumbled six times. No, I don't think Tannehill should start. I do not want Tannehill to start. He won't be in my top 2 at the position, and I'm not sure I'll add a third name. I'm not keeping Tannehill, and none of us Salsa owners gain anything if Salsa loses the game. I can't ignore that Cousins had the lowest completion percentage while tying Tua for the second most potential turnovers. I'm not sold that he gives us the best chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingram Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 11 minutes ago, TL-TwoWinsAway said: Cousins has fumbled six times. No, I don't think Tannehill should start. I do not want Tannehill to start. He won't be in my top 2 at the position, and I'm not sure I'll add a third name. I'm not keeping Tannehill, and none of us Salsa owners gain anything if Salsa loses the game. I can't ignore that Cousins had the lowest completion percentage while tying Tua for the second most potential turnovers. I'm not sold that he gives us the best chance. Tua and Herbert also had 6 fumbles and Herbert threw one more INT. He had the same amount of turnovers as Tua and less than Herbert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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