WindyCity Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 Just now, WindyCity said: More #Jaguars are NOT expected to franchise tag WR Allen Robinson. #Rams are NOT expected to franchise tag WR Sammy Watkins. #Bears are NOT expected to franchise tag CB Kyle Fuller. All this per @BradBiggs. Further crushes Miami's position on Landry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisoxguy7 Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 3 minutes ago, WindyCity said: Further crushes Miami's position on Landry. It would be funny if they got stuck with him, or were forced to move him for a 5th or 6th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G08 Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 I still think Watkins is the prefect fit for what I believe Nagy wants to do here. Robinson is a heck of a fall-back option for us. This should be interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisoxguy7 Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 Just now, G08 said: I still think Watkins is the prefect fit for what I believe Nagy wants to do here. Robinson is a heck of a fall-back option for us. This should be interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WindyCity Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 4 minutes ago, chisoxguy7 said: It would be funny if they got stuck with him, or were forced to move him for a 5th or 6th. They cannot keep him. There cap is a natural disaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WindyCity Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 Losing Fuller with the cap space that the Bears have is really not acceptable. But not tagging him does not mean you are losing him. Multiple beat guys have said that this is not an Alshon situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronMike84 Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 1 minute ago, WindyCity said: Losing Fuller with the cap space that the Bears have is really not acceptable. But not tagging him does not mean you are losing him. Multiple beat guys have said that this is not an Alshon situation. At the same time, the deal has to be fair. I also have to wonder what the internal evaluation of Fuller is like. Solid 2017 after a 2015 when he lost his job and a 2016 when his commitment was heavily questioned. Fangio said some pretty damning things about him in December of 2016. So which Kyle Fuller are they trying to pay? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G08 Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 5 minutes ago, IronMike84 said: At the same time, the deal has to be fair. I also have to wonder what the internal evaluation of Fuller is like. Solid 2017 after a 2015 when he lost his job and a 2016 when his commitment was heavily questioned. Fangio said some pretty damning things about him in December of 2016. So which Kyle Fuller are they trying to pay? That's the rub and it's why I'm glad he isn't getting tagged at roughly $15 million. I don't think he's going to get AJ Boyue or Stephon Gilmore money, so my hope is he finds something around $10-11 million per season and we match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WindyCity Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 I do not like Wilkerson in GB unless he plans on destroying their locker room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ty21 Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 6 minutes ago, WindyCity said: I do not like Wilkerson in GB unless he plans on destroying their locker room. I'm guessing he likes the color green. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZBearsFan Posted March 5, 2018 Author Share Posted March 5, 2018 3 hours ago, IronMike84 said: At the same time, the deal has to be fair. I also have to wonder what the internal evaluation of Fuller is like. Solid 2017 after a 2015 when he lost his job and a 2016 when his commitment was heavily questioned. Fangio said some pretty damning things about him in December of 2016. So which Kyle Fuller are they trying to pay? I read a while back about how he and Fangio really bonded over the past year though after the 2016 stuff. Played golf a lot and what not. Then after that Fuller responded with unquestionably his best season and Fangio was retained. Dots connect there. I’d like the transition tag at minimum if nothing else but if he’s sincere in wanting to be here then it’s a big time gesture that we’d give him a true shot at gauging his market value - one that will resonate with the locker room and other potential FA as well. That has legit value too.. If Fuller were to screw us over after that then are a lot of good options this year in FA in or around that Amukamara tier of player where we could get a solid even if short term replacement. It was different with Alshon in that there weren’t really any comparable reasonable alternatives to him in FA. With Fuller there definitely are, both in FA and the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G08 Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 7 minutes ago, AZBearsFan said: I read a while back about how he and Fangio really bonded over the past year though after the 2016 stuff. Played golf a lot and what not. Then after that Fuller responded with unquestionably his best season and Fangio was retained. Dots connect there. I’d like the transition tag at minimum if nothing else but if he’s sincere in wanting to be here then it’s a big time gesture that we’d give him a true shot at gauging his market value - one that will resonate with the locker room and other potential FA as well. That has legit value too.. If Fuller were to screw us over after that then are a lot of good options this year in FA in or around that Amukamara tier of player where we could get a solid even if short term replacement. It was different with Alshon in that there weren’t really any comparable reasonable alternatives to him in FA. With Fuller there definitely are, both in FA and the draft. Bingo. And as someone that loved Alshon even before he was a Bear, if you told me we'd lose him in FA but replace him with Sammy Watkins or Allen Robinson, I would probably smile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topwop1 Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 2 hours ago, WindyCity said: I do not like Wilkerson in GB unless he plans on destroying their locker room. There's no doubt that Wilkerson is a nice talent but there are lots of questions about his commitment and work ethic. For a guy who already received a lot of guaranteed money from the Jets I'm not concerned he's going to suddenly change his ways. As a Bears fan I'm more concerned about the Vikings possibly landing Cousins. I would rather continue to see them struggle to find a starter between Bradford, Keenum and Bridgewater. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsfancro Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 Reading comments on Lemming post on twitter about how if they let Fuller go, they don`t know what they are doing LOL This is one of the best FA and draft years at CB position and you can find good players for less money as tagging would cost. Trumaine Johnson, EJ Gaines, Malcolm Butler, Breshaud Breeland, Aaron Colvin, Ross Cockrell etc. Lots of young talent is there... Kyle played great last season, he and Hicks were best players on the team and I believe that he will be back for around 10 mil per year. And that is ok. Forget the D, Fangio`s D played solid to good without best players all the time. Bears have problem on the offensive side. That must be Pace's and Nagy's priority. If u can add some talent to D, take the shot, but they need better O. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WindyCity Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 43 minutes ago, G08 said: Bingo. And as someone that loved Alshon even before he was a Bear, if you told me we'd lose him in FA but replace him with Sammy Watkins or Allen Robinson, I would probably smile. If you have Fuller's word and you trust that you will get a chance to counter then there is no need to transition tag him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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