Ty21 Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 2 hours ago, MKnight82 said: Three top 5 picks might be a little over the top. It’s a suspend belief decision but I won’t judge if you do it once Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MKnight82 Posted September 13, 2023 Author Share Posted September 13, 2023 (edited) 2024 NFL DRAFT Alright lets do this. First let me tell you how I set up my board. So for whatever reason Madden 24 made it so you can’t flip through all of the prospects on a single screen, you now have to go position by position (they cut off the All tab at the top 50 players). So what I did was go through every position and add any player I thought was draftable to a spreadsheet. I then grouped them into tiers in which the cpu has them labeled talentwise: Top 5, Round 1, Round 1-2, Round 2-3, Round 3-4, Day 3 and UDFA. Then I went to every prospect again and gave them a rating 1 to 3 for Skills and Athleticism. For example, the top player on my board DT Zac Allen has A FM, A PM, A TKL, he gets a 3 for Skills, plus his combine was insane, he gets a 3 for Athleticism. WR Kerry Gills is stupid fast, he gets a 3 for Athleticism, but his CTH, CIT and RLS are awful, he gets a 1 for Skills. So a 6 is a perfect score, and I only have four of those on my entire draft board: DT Allen, HB Holt, WR McCain, and OC Kurtis Johnson. If there are ties, for instance lets say both prospects have a 5, the one with the higher Athleticism gets the nod cause more upside. If two prospects have the exact rating of a 5 and same distribution between Skills and Athleticism, positional value wins. Based on these rules I ranked the players within their Tiers they had been assigned by the CPU. Oh, one more thing, if a player had positive press during the year they go to the front of the line in their tier. Buccaneers Draft Board # Mock Projection Postion Name Height Weight Age School Archetype Att 1 Att 2 Att 3 40 Bench Vert Broad 3 Cone Shuttle Press Skills Athlete 1 2 Top 5 DT Zac Allen 6'5" 297 21 LSU Power Rusher A PM A FM A TKL 4.75 1st 40 2nd 35.0 1st 10.2 8th 7.22 1st 4.74 1st 3 3 2 3 Top 5 HB Carlos Holt 5'11" 221 22 Purdue Power Back A CRY B BRT B BCV 4.46 7th 33 1st 34.9 2nd 10.6 1st 6.74 1st 4.24 10th 3 3 3 5 Top 5 WR Greg McCain 6'5" 219 22 Boston College Physical A RLS A CIT B CTH 4.38 6th 24 1st 42.3 1st 10.11 1st 6.95 38th 4.17 27th 3 3 4 21 Top 5 QB Thomas McDonald 6'5" 227 22 Memphis Strong Arm Elite TP A UNP C SA 4.77 4th 19 5th 25.0 10th 9.2 6th 7.40 12th 4.53 9th Y 2 2 5 1 Round 1 RE Earl Tatum 6'4" 260 21 Clemson Speed Rusher B FM B TKL B-D BS 4.66 4th 29 19th 34.1 5th 10.8 2nd 7.06 1st 4.55 1st Y 2 3 6 11 Round 1 LE Josh Bowens 6'2" 263 22 Texas Speed Rusher B FM C PM A TKL 4.56 1st 32 12th 33.5 9th 9.11 18th 7.30 13th 4.65 8th 2 3 7 14 Round 1 CB Danny Smith 5'11" 181 23 Houston Man to Man A MC B ZC B PRS 4.45 14th 17 4th 37.1 7th 10.0 7th 6.79 2nd 4.06 3rd 3 2 8 7 Round 1 RE Josh Herbert 6'4" 262 23 South Carolina Speed Rusher A FM A TKL C-F PM 4.64 3rd 30 17th 34.9 1st 10.8 1st 7.26 11th 4.62 5th 2 2 9 4 Round 1 RE Tyree Vincent 6'3" 264 22 FSU Speed Rusher B FM B TKL C PM 4.75 14th 32 11th 32.7 13th 10.3 9th 7.20 5th 4.59 2nd 2 2 10 Round 1 QB Cody Gibbs 6'6" 230 22 Kansas State Strong Arm Elite TP A UNP C-F SA 4.94 14th 28 1st 24.7 11th 8.11 12th 7.31 10th 4.43 3rd 2 2 11 Round 1-2 LG Deandre Boyd 6'5" 340 21 Wisconsin Power B RB B-D PB A IB 5.05 3rd 39 1st 24.8 28th 9.4 31st 7.52 2nd 5.03 4th 2 3 12 20 Round 1-2 DT Courtney Carmichael 6'3" 309 21 Oklahoma State Power Rusher B PM B FM A TKL 4.81 2nd 37 5th 32.1 6th 9.10 17th 7.49 8th 4.82 2nd 2 3 13 24 Round 1-2 CB Joe Cooper 6'2" 200 22 Northwestern Zone A ZC C MC C PRS 4.39 1st 20 1st 33.3 27th 9.7 25th 6.86 8th 4.19 10th 2 3 14 16 Round 1-2 TE Keeshawn Taylor 6'3" 248 21 Miami Vertical Threat A CTH A CIT A-C RB 4.66 7th 21 14th 34.5 2nd 10.6 1st 7.01 2nd 4.25 1st 3 2 15 30 Round 1-2 DT Lester Allen 6'3" 305 21 Florida Run Stopper C PM C FM A TKL 5.08 11th 39 3rd 30.1 9th 10.6 3rd 7.38 3rd 5.00 8th 3 2 16 27 Round 1-2 LT Brian Tuck 6'5" 336 21 Alabama Power B RB C-F PB A-C IB 5.16 19th 37 2nd 25.3 29th 10.1 5th 7.59 11th 5.03 9th 2 2 17 Round 1-2 WR Ricky Streeter 6'5" 219 22 NC State Physical B DR C CTH A-C CIT 4.46 14th 19 3rd 41.6 3rd 10.5 2nd 6.94 37th 4.20 33rd 2 2 18 Round 1-2 LE JR Hamilton 6'4" 275 21 Michigan State Power Rusher D FM A PM A-C TKL 4.81 22nd 37 2nd 30.2 22nd 10.2 14th 7.24 9th 4.62 4th 2 2 19 15 Round 1-2 FS Byron Dickson 6'1" 214 22 Boise State Hybrid B ZC A-C MC C TKL 4.42 1st 13 13th 33.8 10th 10.2 4th 6.91 4th 4.25 7th 2 2 20 Round 2-3 WR Kerry Gills 5'10" 189 21 Oregon State Playmaker B-D DR D RLS C-F CTH 4.25 2nd 6 45th 38.5 8th 9.8 26th 6.53 2nd 3.83 1st Y 1 3 21 Round 2-3 OC Kurtis Johnson 6'4" 319 21 Penn State Power A-C RB B-D PB A IB 5.01 5th 36 1st 27.4 6th 9.10 3rd 7.61 5th 5.08 5th 3 3 22 Round 2-3 TE Carlos Dean 6'3" 247 23 South Carolina Vertical Threat B CTH B CIT B-D RB 4.57 1st 18 21st 34.2 4th 10.0 4th 7.07 4th 4.49 10th 2 3 23 Round 2-3 LG Isaiah Hatchett 6'3" 334 22 Tennessee Power B-D RB B PB A IB 5.08 8th 37 2nd 26.7 18th 10.1 3rd 7.55 5th 5.05 5th 2 3 24 Round 2-3 ROLB Nick McDonald 6'2" 245 22 Ohio State Run Stopper A TKL A-C BS A-C ZC 4.64 7th 25 5th 33.5 3rd 10.3 4th 7.05 6th 4.49 7th 3 2 25 Round 2-3 WR Joel Foster 5'11" 196 23 Oklahoma Slot A CTH A CIT F RLS 4.48 19th 12 22nd 34.0 34th 9.3 41st 6.75 6th 4.04 6th 2 2 26 Round 2-3 LE Immanuel Blaylock 6'5" 299 22 Georgia Run Stopper D FM B PM A-C TKL 4.87 26th 37 1st 31.1 18th 10.5 5th 7.48 24th 4.97 26th 2 2 27 Round 2-3 FS Dashawn McKenzie 6'1" 200 22 Tennessee Zone B-D ZC C MC B TKL 4.51 4th 16 6th 38.6 1st 10.5 1st 6.94 8th 4.21 4th 2 2 28 Round 2-3 CB Tyler Merritt 6'3" 192 22 FSU Man to Man B MC D ZC C PRS 4.41 3rd 15 7th 38.2 3rd 9.9 20th 6.84 7th 4.20 12th 1 2 29 Round 3-4 MLB Ramon Freeman 6'3" 225 23 USF Pass Coverage B-D TKL D BS A-C ZC 4.59 9th 24 4th 31.5 9th 9.10 7th 6.96 1st 4.37 1st Y 2 2 30 Round 3-4 LG Cam Kelly 6'4" 311 21 Georgia Pass Protector B RB B PB B-D IB 4.98 1st 33 11th 30.9 2nd 10.4 1st 7.56 6th 5.10 8th 2 3 31 Round 3-4 DT Andrian Clements 6'3" 305 21 USC Run Stopper C PM B FM C TKL 4.85 4th 37 6th 30.6 7th 10.4 6th 7.37 2nd 4.86 3rd 2 3 32 Round 3-4 ROLB Mike Youngblood 6'3" 247 21 Boston College Run Stopper A TKL C BS B-D ZC 4.57 3rd 28 1st 34.9 1st 10.6 1st 7.15 18th 4.53 9th 2 3 33 Round 3-4 TE Joe Sutphin 6'6" 269 22 Tennessee Possession B CTH A-C CIT B RB 4.67 6th 18 22nd 30.0 13th 9.10 11th 7.19 12th 4.52 13th 3 2 34 Round 3-4 HB Andrew Mickens 5'11" 226 21 Auburn Power Back B CRY A-C BCV A-C BRT 4.41 2nd 30 2nd 34.8 3rd 10.0 8th 6.95 14th 4.33 24th 2 2 35 Round 3-4 DT Lucas Flores 6'5" 298 22 Florida Speed Rusher D PM A FM A TKL 4.85 3rd 34 10th 32.4 5th 10.4 5th 7.55 10th 5.01 11th 2 2 36 Round 3-4 LOLB Alex Richard 6'3" 231 22 Texas A&M Run Stopper B-D TKL B-D BS B-D ZC 4.61 5th 27 2nd 31.8 12th 10.4 3rd 7.13 12th 4.61 15th 2 2 37 Day 3 HB Jerry Calloway 5'11" 232 22 Alabama Power Back A BRT B BCV A-C CRY 4.46 8th 29 3rd 31.5 15th 10.0 11th 6.91 6th 4.29 18th 3 2 38 Day 3 WR Jonathan Burnett 6'1" 175 22 Florida Deep Threat B-D DR D CTH D RLS 4.24 1st 11 25th 41.7 2nd 10.2 3rd 6.50 1st 3.93 3rd 1 3 39 Day 3 TE Deon Meredith 6'4" 244 22 Wisconsin Vertical Threat A-C CTH C CIT C RB 4.58 2nd 25 2nd 34.4 3rd 9.11 6th 7.21 15th 4.51 12th 2 2 40 Day 3 CB Dell Clayborn 5'10" 193 21 Miami Slot B MC C-F ZC C-F PRS 4.58 44th 12 13th 34.3 15th 9.8 21st 6.67 1st 3.93 1st 2 2 41 Day 3 CB Cole Heyward 6'2" 182 22 Duke Man to Man B-D MC D ZC B PRS 4.49 23rd 13 10th 34.1 18th 9.9 17th 6.79 3rd 4.19 9th 2 2 42 Day 3 QB Glen Marshall 6'6" 225 22 Dayton Strong Arm Elite TP B DA B MA 4.86 10th 13 10th 23.4 16th 8.8 17th 7.3 8th 4.60 12th 2 2 43 Day 3 TE John Blackburn 6'4" 255 21 Clemson Possession B-D CTH A CIT B RB 4.81 19th 23 7th 31.5 9th 9.10 9th 7.15 7th 4.50 11th 3 1 44 Day 3 CB Dalton Haden 6'3" 189 21 LSU Slot C MC D ZC C PRS 4.52 31st 12 17th 38.2 4th 10.4 2nd 6.83 6th 4.15 6th 1 2 45 Day 3 SS Jacoby Toon 5'11" 213 22 Pittsburgh Run Support B-D ZC D MC C TKL 4.53 4th 23 3rd 34.3 6th 10.5 3rd 7.02 10th 4.37 12th 1 2 46 Day 3 LT Ben Williams 6'6" 336 21 Utah Power C RB D PB A IB 5.23 26th 33 12th 26.0 25th 9.5 39th 7.99 34th 5.27 39th 1 2 47 Day 3 WR Cam Bishop 6'1" 201 22 Florida Playmaker B DR A-C CTH C RLS 4.54 31st 15 10th 35.3 22nd 9.7 26th 6.84 19th 4.08 9th 2 1 48 Day 3 QB Jason Groves 6'5" 244 23 Charlotte Strong Arm Elite TP B UNP C SA 4.98 15th 21 3rd 22.7 19th 8.10 14th 7.49 19th 4.68 14th 2 1 49 UDFA LT Cooper Edwards 6'4" 313 23 Auburn Agile A-C RB C PB B IB 4.92 5th 29 37th 30.7 5th 9.11 15th 7.46 5th 5.03 10th 50 UDFA QB Marc Shields 6'3" 228 22 Dayton Strong Arm Elite TP B SA B DA 5.03 16th 16 6th 24.5 12th 9.2 7th 7.48 18th 4.47 8th 51 UDFA HB Jalen Meadows 5'11" 230 22 Pittsburgh Power Back B CRY B BCV B BRT 4.55 22nd 28 5th 33.3 4th 10.1 4th 6.94 11th 4.36 28th 52 UDFA FB Nathan Dunn 6'0" 250 22 Nevada Blocking A RB A LB B PB 4.78 4th 25 2nd 32.0 2nd 9.8 3rd 7.40 4th 4.78 7th 53 UDFA K Gordon Gilkey 5'8" 194 23 Florida Power B KA B AWR I made a trade before the draft started: *TRADE* Patriots Receive #21 overall 2025 Chargers 1st Round Pick Bucs Receive #5 overall pick This lets me target WR McCain at 5. These are the draft picks I have for this draft: 1 – 1 1 – 5 2 – 33 2 – 59 3 – 65 3 – 73 3 – 93 4 – 97 5 – 155 6 – 161 7 – 193 7 - 200 Time to start the draft. I have no interest in fielding trade offers for the #1 overall pick. DT Zac Allen is one of the best prospects I have ever seen. With the #1 overall pick in the NFL Draft the Tampa Bay Buccaneers select: DT Zac Allen, LSU - 82 OVR Power Rusher (82), Speed Rusher (79), Run Stopper (78) - Wow. Hidden dev, great way to start. 81 speed is a little low given his 40 time but is elite for a DT. 86 ACC and 93 STR. Should be an elite interior pass rusher. Ok my next pick is at 5. Due to popular demand I'm going to pass on HB Holt. McCain has been mocked at 5 the past 3 mocks. He was mocked higher than that before but I'm just going to gamble he drops to 5 cause I don't want to pay any more to move up. Ok.......QB Thomas Mcdonald goes #2 overall to the Cardinals, which is both ridiculous because they still have Kyler Murray on the roster and he was mocked to go #21 overall. This really screws things up Idk if McCain is going to fall to 5 now. HB Holt goes #3 overall to the Colts which is where he was mocked to go. Kind of silly they're willing to draft a RB at 3 but not pay Jonathan Taylor though IRL. Oh wait, even more ridiculous is they gave Taylor a 4 year $35 mil extension and then also drafted Holt. Jesus Madden draft logic is horrible. Washington then takes RE Earl Tatum at 4, despite having extended both Chase Young and Montez Sweat in the offseason, and they're still paying Payne and Allen. Maybe Madden plans to play 11 dlineman on defense for them. Well those idiots let McCain fall to me. This pick is easy. With the 5th overall pick in the NFL Draft the Tampa Bay Buccaneers select: WR Greg McCain, Boston College - 80 OVR Physical (80), Deep Threat (77), Slot (77), Playmaker (75) - Hidden dev! 93 speed with 90 acceleration. Pretty insane for 6'5". He also has 97 jump. I have no more first round picks and don't plan on trading back into the first round. Time to sim to 33. I may trade up from my later 2nd rounder to have two high 2nds as I feel there is a lot of talent in that range. Ok I’m on the clock at 33. BPA on my board right now looks like this: QB Cody Gibbs LG Deandre Boyd CB Joe Cooper WR Ricky Streeter LE JR Hamilton WR Kerry Gills OC Kurtis Johnson The surprising development here is CB Joe Cooper who was supposed to go in the first round. All of the others were projected to drop to the 2nd. Cooper is a Zone first CB who ran the fastest 40 at his position (4.39) and did the most bench (20). His man and press ratings are only C. So either I would need to train him up at man coverage or he’d need to move to FS. Either way he looks like a pretty legit prospect that I wasn’t expecting to be here. The issue is I don’t pick again until 59 and I have two prospects I absolutely want to draft in WR Kerry Gills (stupid fast and press) and OC Kurtis Johnson (my only other perfect 6 in the draft). To accomplish all of that I’d have to take Cooper here at 33 then probably trade up twice to take the other two. With the 33rd overall pick in the NFL Draft the Tampa Bay Buccaneers select: CB Joe Cooper, Northwestern - 77 OVR Zone (77), Man to Man (74), Slot (74) - 3 for 3 hidden devs. Great way to start the rebuild. 94 Spd 94 acc. He’s going to be good. Ok I want to try to trade one of my CBs now for a 2nd round pick because Cooper is going to need their playing time. The issue is none of the teams behind me have any cap space. The closest pick I can get is 37 with the patriots as they have a bunch of cap room. *TRADE* Patriots Receive CB Carlton Davis III (83) #155 overall (5) 2025 Bucs 4th Round Pick Bucs Receive #37 overall (2) - Not the greatest return for me but the Patriots were negotiating tough and none of the other teams had enough cap to take on Davis’ contract. Wow literally no one from my board went from 33 to 37. I’m on the clock. I want both WR Gills and OC Johnson. There are several WRs still on the board before Gills, but Johnson is the top Center on the board. So I think its smarter to take Johnson first. With the 37th overall pick in the NFL Draft the Tampa Bay Buccaneers select: OC Kurtis Johnson, Penn State - 75 OVR Power (75), Pass Protector (68), Agile (68) - 4 for 4 hidden devs. Killing it. He has solid 88 strength, not top notch but good enough for a Center. He’s a Power archetype so I hope he’s a mauler in the run game. Should be a Day 1 starter. Ok I don’t pick again till 59. I will probably trade up from there but I think I can sim until I see a few WRs go off the board first. QB Cody Gibbs went to the Bears, I wonder what that means for Fields. LG Deandre Boyd fell to the Eagles which seems unfair. Big run on oline here. Ok I’m 10 picks away from my pick and the first WR has gone. Ok well I simmed to 59 and he’s still on the board. Glad I didn’t waste any more resources moving up. With the 59th overall pick in the NFL Draft the Tampa Bay Buccaneers select: WR Kerry Gills, Oregon State - 71 OVR Playmaker (71), Deep Threat (70), Slot (64), Physical (63) - 5 in a row people. Hidden dev. Stupid speed. 98 SPD, 97 ACC. He’s going to be raw but he will be a weapon. I pick again at 65. I'll reassess the board there. Ok on the clock at 65. Here’s the current BPA: WR Ricky Streeter ROLB Nick McDonald WR Joel Foster MLB Ramon Freeman LG Cam Kelly DT Adrian Clements ROLB Mike Youngblood TE Joe Sutphin HB Andrew Mickens I have 3 picks in the 3rd round here. I’m not going to seriously consider another WR, so the top two guys are both linebackers. Nick McDonald is a solid run stuffing linebacker, probably the best as far as current skills in this draft class. Then there’s MLB Freeman who’s listed as a pass coverage backer and had a positive press story. I was really hoping TE Carlos Dean had fallen I would have ran up to the podium if he had fallen. I could also use more Oline and a HB somewhere here in the 3rd. The trade down offers look pretty terrible. The smart thing here would probably be to take Freeman who had a press article about him but Mcdonald honestly looks like a better player to me. Freeman is slightly more athletic though. Tough call. I’m going with my gut and taking McDonald. With the 65th overall pick in the NFL Draft the Tampa Bay Buccaneers select: ROLB Nick McDonald, Ohio State - 73 OVR Run Stopper (73), Pass Coverage (67), Power Rusher (65), Speed Rusher (64) - SIX. IN. A. ROW. Hidden dev. 86 SPD, 88 ACC. He looks really good. I’m not going to move up again here, in fact I’d like to trade down with one of these picks in the 3rd if I can get a good offer. WR Ricky Streeter went with the next pick to the Cardinals. Hmm, literally no one else from my board went before my next pick. Well Freeman is still here. Do I take another linebacker? I have two solid MLBs already on my roster. Eventually I want to replace them all but both are really young and still developing. Also Freeman looks really raw as a prospect. I think I’m going to entertain trading down here. *TRADE* Eagles Receive #73 overall (3) Bucs Receive #105 overall (4) 2025 Eagles 3rd Round Pick 2025 Eagles 6th Round Pick - This doesn’t help me out immediately but I’m only dropping one round and pick up two picks for next year. I'm on the clock again at 93. Ouch the Eagles took HB Mickens. DT Adrian Clements went with the next pick to the 49ers. And literally the 3rd pick after that MLB Ramon Freeman to the Browns. I’m going to be pissed if Freeman is a Superstar dev. Ya everyone I said before is gone. I’m on the clock now at 93. Here’s the BPAs: LOLB Alex Richard HB Jerry Calloway WR Jonathan Burnett TE Dion Meredith CB Dell Clayborn CB Cole Heyward QB Glen Marshall Some interesting prospects here. I pick twice in the next 5 picks so I need to identify two targets here. LOLB Richard is another run stuffer who’s far inferior to the other linebackers I mentioned earlier. HB Calloway is the only draftable RB until you get into the UDFA territory. WR Burnett is the fastest WR in this class. TE Meredith looks like a really nice athlete for a TE. CB Clayborn has a slightly slower 40 time but quick shuttle and good tackling, he’s a slot CB. Heyward is a little faster and would be an outside CB. QB Marshall is a strong arm QB with elite arm strength. I have two other “draftable” QBs but they are so far down the board they might be really really raw. I think my top guys here are TE Meredith, CB Clayborn or QB Marshall. I have little to no talent at TE on the roster, you can always use more CBs, and I wouldn’t mind grabbing a QB just to have a QB. Ultimately position value wins out. With the 93rd overall pick in the NFL Draft the Tampa Bay Buccaneers select: QB Glen Marshall, Dayton - 68 OVR Strong Arm (68), Field General (63), Scrambler (62), Improviser (61) - Broke the streak, kind of expected that this late with a QB. But I want to develop him as a backup, or maybe he can push Darnold for playing time. 94 throw power is nice. TE Meredith fell to my next pick I just think I need some bodies in the TE room. With the 97th overall pick in the NFL Draft the Tampa Bay Buccaneers select: TE Deon Meredith, Wisconsin - 68 OVR Vertical Threat (68), Possession (65), Blocking (55) - lol wow. Hidden #7. A hidden dev TE in the 4th? Wow. 86 SPD, 85 ACC. He will probably start Day 1. Hell of a 4th round pick. Ok I pick again at 105 (from the Eagles trade down) but don’t pick again after that until 161 in the 6th. Crap CB Clayborn went to the Rams. I was going to take him next. And then HB Calloway goes to the Vikings. Literally right before my pick. BPA for me is probably WR Burnett but there’s like 10 WRs on the board ahead of him. The trade down offers are garbage though. I guess I’ll just take the speed. With the 105th overall pick in the NFL Draft the Tampa Bay Buccaneers select: WR Jonathan Burnett, Florida - 70 OVR Deep Threat (70), Playmaker (69), Physical (63), Slot (63) - Normal dev but 99 SPD, 98 ACC, 99 AG. Guess I just found my KR. I’m just going to sim to the 6th round. With the 161st overall pick in the NFL Draft the Tampa Bay Buccaneers select: LT Cooper Edwards, Auburn - 64 OVR Agile (64), Power (60), Pass Protector (56) - Normal dev. Oline depth. 7th Round. With the 193rd overall pick in the NFL Draft the Tampa Bay Buccaneers select: K Gordon Gilkey, Florida - 70 OVR Power (70), Accurate (69) - 87 kick power. Normal dev. He’s getting cut. I’ll have to sign a kicker. With the 200th overall pick in the NFL Draft the Tampa Bay Buccaneers select: FB Nathan Dunn, Nevada - 74 OVR Blocking (74), Utility (68) - I was looking for a blocking TE in this class but couldn’t find one. Took this FB instead. Normal dev. Not sure if he’ll make the roster or not. That wraps a pretty epic first draft. Edited September 13, 2023 by MKnight82 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MKnight82 Posted September 13, 2023 Author Share Posted September 13, 2023 Buccaneers 2024 Draft Summary Round Pick Position Name OVR Hidden Dev 1 1 DT Zac Allen 82 Yes 1 5 WR Greg McCain 80 Yes 2 33 CB Joe Cooper 77 Yes 2 37 OC Kurtis Johnson 75 Yes 2 59 WR Kerry Gills 71 Yes 3 65 ROLB Nick McDonald 73 Yes 3 93 QB Glen Marshall 68 No 4 97 TE Deon Meredith 68 Yes 4 105 WR Jonathan Burnett 70 No 6 161 LT Cooper Edwards 64 No 7 193 K Gordon Gilkey 70 No 7 200 FB Nathan Dunn 74 No 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MKnight82 Posted September 13, 2023 Author Share Posted September 13, 2023 POST DRAFT RECAP - 2024 The top 10 players in the draft were: #1 - DT Zac Allen - Drafted 1 by Bucs - 82 OVR - ??? #2 - WR Greg McCain - Drafted 5 by Bucs - 89 OVR - ??? #3 - SS James Bullock - Drafted 14 by Broncos - 79 OVR - SS X Factor (I didn't have him on my board because of slow 40 time) #4 - DT Lester Allen - Drafted 30 by Ravens - 78 OVR - Star Dev #5 - CB Danny Smith - Drafted 24 by Cardinals - 78 OVR - Normal Dev #6 - HB Jerry Calloway - Drafted 104 by Vikings - 77 OVR - Star Dev (UGH, disgusting, I should have taken him over QB Marshall) #7 - CB Joe Cooper - Drafted 33 by Bucs - 77 OVR - ??? #8 - WR Brandon Barton - Drafted 12 by Eagles - 77 OVR - SS X Factor (good lord I didn't even have him on my board) #9 - HB Carlos Holt - Drafted 3 by Colts - 76 OVR - Star Dev (congrats on the expensive backup RB Colts) #10 - LE JR Hamilton - Drafted 42 by 49ers - 76 OVR - Star Dev Other names of note: QB Thomas McDonald (73) - Star Dev RE Earl Tatum (73) - SS X Factor (I made fun of Washington for taking him but he might end up better than Sweat and Young) QB Cody Gibbs (72) - Superstar (crap) LG Deandre Boyd (75) - Superstar TE Carlos Dean (68) - Normal Dev MLB Ramon Freeman (72) - Superstar (disgusting) LG Cam Kelly (75) - Star Dev TE Joe Sutphin (70) - Star Dev CB Dell Clayborn (71) - Superstar (UGH!) Highest OVR of Each Round: Round 1 - DT Zac Allen - Drafted 1 by Bucs - 82 OVR - ??? Round 2 - CB Joe Cooper - Drafted 33 by Bucs - 77 OVR - ??? Round 3 - HB Andrew Mickens - Drafted 75 by Eagles - 75 OVR - Star Dev Round 4 - HB Jerry Calloway - Drafted 104 by Vikings - 77 OVR - Star Dev Round 5 - CB Dalton Haden - Drafted 130 by Cardinals - 72 OVR - Normal Dev Round 6 - WR Steven Vincent - Drafted 165 by Patriots - 70 OVR - Normal Dev Round 7 - FB Nathan Dunn - Drafted 200 by Bucs - 74 OVR - Normal Dev Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MKnight82 Posted September 13, 2023 Author Share Posted September 13, 2023 Top Player in the League at Each Position - Year 2 Position Name Team Age Dev Trait OVR QB Patrick Mahomes Chiefs 28 X Factor 99 HB Josh Jacobs Raiders 26 X Factor 98 FB Kyle Juszczyk 49ers 33 Star 86 WR Justin Jefferson Vikings 25 X Factor 99 TE George Kittle 49ers 30 X Factor 96 LT Laremy Tunsil Texans 30 Star 95 LG Quenton Nelson Colts 28 Superstar 93 OC Creed Humphrey Chiefs 26 Superstar 92 RG Zack Martin Cowboys 33 Superstar 97 RT Ryan Ramczyk Saints 30 Star 90 LE Greg Rousseau Bills 24 Superstar 87 RE Nick Bosa 49ers 26 X Factor 99 DT Chris Jones Chiefs 30 X Factor 97 LOLB Maxx Crosby Raiders 27 X Factor 96 MLB Fred Warner 49ers 27 X Factor 98 ROLB Rashan Gary Packers 26 X Factor 91 CB Patrick Surtain Broncos 24 X Factor 97 FS Minkah Fitzpatrick Steelers 27 X Factor 94 SS Derwin James Chargers 28 X Factor 96 K Justin Tucker Ravens 34 Superstar 92 P AJ Cole Raiders 28 Superstar 85 Its weird that Madden 24 only has five DEs rated above 90 ovr in the game and they are all listed as REs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MKnight82 Posted September 13, 2023 Author Share Posted September 13, 2023 UDFA WR Chad Thompson (71) - another stupid fast WR. Normal Dev. LT Quentin Batten (65) - oline depth. Normal LG Bryce Singh (66) - oline depth. Normal RT Darren Frazier (66) - oline depth. Normal. Most of these guys will be heading to PS. RE CJ McLeod (65) - moving to DT. Normal MLB Cam McDowell (65) - Run stopper. Normal MLB Dominique Parsons (64) - Pass coverage. Normal Also signed K Ka'imi Fairbarin (81) to the roster. Star dev. 30 years old. Also signed FB Rashaad Penny (77) to the roster. Needed a backup RB. Also signed FS Eric Rowe (75) to the roster. I currently lack a starting FS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MKnight82 Posted September 13, 2023 Author Share Posted September 13, 2023 (edited) Buccaneers Roster - Year 2 Offense Skill Players QB OVR Age HB OVR Age FB OVR Age WR OVR Age TE OVR Age S Darnold 72 27 R White 77 25 N Dunn 74 22 G McCain 80 22 C Otton 75 25 G Marshall 68 22 R Penny 77 28 R Gage Jr 76 28 D Meredith 68 22 K Trask 61 26 S Conner 67 24 T Palmer 75 23 K Kieft 66 26 K Gills 71 21 P Durham 65 24 C Thompson 71 21 J Burnett 70 22 A Schwartz 69 23 Offensive Lineman LT OVR Age LG OVR Age C OVR Age RG OVR Age RT OVR Age T Wirfs 93 25 M Feiler 75 32 R Jensen 86 33 C Mauch 74 25 J Williams 77 26 Q Batten 65 22 B Singh 66 21 K Johnson 75 21 C Edwards 66 23 L Goedeke 68 25 R Hainsey 74 26 D Frazier 66 23 Defensive Players LE OVR Age DT OVR Age RE OVR Age LOLB OVR Age ROLB OVR Age C Ferrell 75 27 Z Allen 82 21 J Tryon-Shoyinka 80 25 N McDonald 73 22 D White 80 26 L Hall 72 24 C Kancey 74 23 AJ Epenesa 73 25 M Watts 65 24 A Nelson 70 27 CJ McLeod 68 23 K Johnson 69 26 R Perkins 65 24 B Johnson 68 25 T Booker 67 24 D Parsons 64 22 M Greene 65 25 Defensive Players MLB OVR Age CB OVR Age FS OVR Age SS OVR Age S Dennis 76 24 J Dean 86 27 E Rowe 75 31 T Edmunds 79 27 KJ Britt 65 25 K Fulton 78 25 E Hallett 67 24 K Merriweather 66 24 C McDowell 65 23 C Cooper 77 22 B Hill 66 23 S Monday 66 24 Z McCollum 69 25 J Hayes 69 25 D Hall 69 24 C Izien 66 24 Special Teams K OVR Age P OVR Age K Fairbairn 81 30 J Camarda 77 25 G Gilkey 70 23 M Araiza 72 24 A lot of turnover from last year. You can see why that I had to sign all of those free agents even with all of the draft picks I had. Sam Darnold is the new starter at QB. I think. I may start the rookie Marshall just to get him experience. White will start again at RB, Penny will be the primary backup. Other than Palmer pretty much the entire WR core is new. Gage didn't play last year too so he's new to me. McCain will be the #1 with Palmer the #2 and rookie Gills in the slot. I will probably shop Gage I don't have snaps for him. Rookie TE Meredith will start over Otton because he's hidden dev. 3 Oline starters return, LT Wirfs, LG Feiler and RG Mauch. Rookie Center Johnson will start, I need to shop Jensen as he's going to regress bad after this year. FA signing Jonah Williams will start at RT. I thought a lot of those UDFA rookie oline were heading to the PS but they are my only depth so probably not. I wish I had landed more Oline in the draft. On the Dline, FA signing Clelin Ferrell will start at LE. Joe Tryon-Shoyinka moves from linebacker to RE in my 4-3 scheme. Rookie DT Zac Allen will start immediately next to Kancey. They may be the two fastest DTs in the league. Rookie LB Nick Mcdonald will start at LOLB. After a big year and gaining Superstar dev Sirvocea Dennis gets the starting nod at MLB, and Devin White moves to ROLB where he will start. Dean is still the #1 CB, rookie CB Joe Cooper will start opposite him as the #2. FAs Rowe and Edmunds will be the starting Safeties. Edited September 13, 2023 by MKnight82 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ty21 Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 I was gonna say, the suck difference between Marshall and Darnold is negligible. Might as well start the rook. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OkeyDoke21 Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 Impressive draft write up! Even just scrolling to the bottom took a while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MKnight82 Posted September 13, 2023 Author Share Posted September 13, 2023 (edited) 14 minutes ago, OkeyDoke21 said: Impressive draft write up! Even just scrolling to the bottom took a while. Ya for some reason writing down what I’m thinking helps me make decisions during the draft. Biggest mistakes were probably passing on MLB Freeman and CB Clayborn in the mid rounds which both ended up being Superstar dev. You can see that part of the draft is where I start focusing on need instead of just going BPA and it backfired a little. Edited September 13, 2023 by MKnight82 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DUKE Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 Even without the third top 5 pick, looks like you had the most successful draft in NFL history, lol. Definitely have to start the University of Dayton grad at QB. If you are so good at QB that you can get drafted from a non-scholarship football program, you're the real deal. Allen's face looks like Aaron Donald McCain looks like Randy Moss Johnson looks like Eric Bieniemy McDonald looks like Terry Crews Those guys just so distinctly look like other guys that it caught my notice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OkeyDoke21 Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, MKnight82 said: Ya for some reason writing down what I’m thinking helps me make decisions during the draft. Biggest mistakes were probably passing on MLB Freeman and CB Clayborn in the mid rounds which both ended up being Superstar dev. You can see that part of the draft is where I start focusing on need instead of just going BPA and it backfired a little. Whatever you're doing works. I would've went Freeman just from the press storyline. Still an absolutely epic class. You came out with an awesome WR corps. Those 3 with the athletic TE and the day 1 center make for a great foundation to eventually plug a young qb into. That doesn't even include getting Reggie White #1 overall. Edited September 13, 2023 by OkeyDoke21 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flatlyner Posted September 15, 2023 Share Posted September 15, 2023 On 9/7/2023 at 9:58 PM, MKnight82 said: I decided to go with the Bucs for my rebuild this year. I feel like everyone is doing the Cardinals this year, everyone has done the Texans for 3 years straight, and personally I just don't like the Rams. So the Bucs were the pick. They have no QB in the waiting and honestly the roster is pretty terrible. Lovely way to start out this thread for me.... First and foremost, my God, these spreadsheets must have taken hours to input. I know first hand on this with our franchises, they take forever. And that draft thread? 5 hours I'm guessing? -I agreed with McCain over Holt. Dude is just a freak of nature and having a dominant WR is more important then a dominant RB in my opinion. -Cooper is going to be one of the best CB's in the NFL. He is already a top safety if he were to play there. -99 speed returner is insane. Would be fun in user games. Hell of a first draft I'll say. Really wish Madden could take their head out of their ***** and stop actually removing parts of the franchise that were useful (i.e. top players list, draft board as we are drafting, etc.). It is entirely ridiculous that Madden removed any way to see who was previously drafted in a fantasy draft now...... How unrealistic is that honestly? Anyway, rant over, great thread. /following (even though you crapped on my Rams in the first paragraph, best record in the league at moment BTW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MKnight82 Posted September 15, 2023 Author Share Posted September 15, 2023 1 hour ago, Flatlyner said: Lovely way to start out this thread for me.... You can thank Jeff Fisher's team captains at mid field for that. 1 hour ago, Flatlyner said: First and foremost, my God, these spreadsheets must have taken hours to input. I know first hand on this with our franchises, they take forever. And that draft thread? 5 hours I'm guessing? That's what all the booze is for. 56 minutes ago, Flatlyner said: -I agreed with McCain over Holt. Dude is just a freak of nature and having a dominant WR is more important then a dominant RB in my opinion. If I was doing this offline I'd probably have taken Holt. 57 minutes ago, Flatlyner said: -Cooper is going to be one of the best CB's in the NFL. He is already a top safety if he were to play there. He didn't hit hard enough or tackle well enough to be a Safety imo. 58 minutes ago, Flatlyner said: -99 speed returner is insane. Would be fun in user games. Between Gills, Thompson and Burnett I landed 3 rookie WRs with 97+ Speed. 59 minutes ago, Flatlyner said: Hell of a first draft I'll say. It would have been a lot better had I taken LG Deandre Boyd, MLB Ramon Freeman or CB Dell Clayborn. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MKnight82 Posted September 16, 2023 Author Share Posted September 16, 2023 STAFF UPDATE Head Coach Offensive Coordinator MKnight EightyTwo Bob Bates Staff Modifications Offensive Development Defensive Development Quick Throws Secure the Line Quarterback Guru PP !0% less None None STAM x1 HB, WR, TE None Can Equip X Factors OC cost 10% less AWR x1 for WR SA x1 for QB DC cost 10% less MA x1 for QB 10% DC talent refund DC hiring bonus Defensive Coordinator Player Personnel Michael Gray Inside 3-4 Second Level Defensive Back Guru Trades Offense Recruitment Defense Recruitment TGH x1 for DL, LB BS x1 for DT Can Equip X Factors None None None Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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