Kiwibrown Posted September 22, 2023 Author Share Posted September 22, 2023 2 hours ago, AkronsWitness said: Not Suprised: Eli Apple, Corey Coleman, Paxton Lynch, John Ross, Josh Rosen, Clelin Ferrell I loved the Corey Coleman pick at the time. He looked explosive. What did you see? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatJerkDave Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 Least surprised: Blaine Gabbert. Saw him in college, knew he wasn't it. Same story but double for Ryan Mallett. Most surprised: Michael Bush. I thought Bush was going to be a Brandon Jacobs clone. I suppose he didn't completely bust, but he wasn't as good as I anticipated after watching him at Louisville. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minutemancl Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 On 9/18/2023 at 7:15 PM, INbengalfan said: Vernon Gholston comes to mind for just how quickly his star was extinguished. He was such an easy evaluation. Great production at a big school, insane testing, and very much passed the eye test. He should have been great. I feel like everyone should have (and to be fair, I think a lot of people did) seen Manziel being a huge bust. You can't succeed at QB in the NFL without putting out insane effort. Jamarcus Russell was a bust for the same reason, but at least I could see how a team might talk themselves into him because of his physical profile. Manziel was a pipsqueak. I didn't see any positive traits in Manziel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bad Example Posted September 26, 2023 Share Posted September 26, 2023 20 hours ago, minutemancl said: I feel like everyone should have (and to be fair, I think a lot of people did) seen Manziel being a huge bust. You can't succeed at QB in the NFL without putting out insane effort. Jamarcus Russell was a bust for the same reason, but at least I could see how a team might talk themselves into him because of his physical profile. Manziel was a pipsqueak. I didn't see any positive traits in Manziel. I saw Manziel have a few good games; if he'd put in the work he could've knocked around as a #2 for a decade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatJerkDave Posted September 26, 2023 Share Posted September 26, 2023 1 hour ago, Mr Bad Example said: I saw Manziel have a few good games; if he'd put in the work he could've knocked around as a #2 for a decade. There is no reason that Manziel couldn't have been Chase Daniel or Colt McCoy, other than Manziel himself. But that freshman season at A&M was electric. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Reed Posted September 26, 2023 Share Posted September 26, 2023 Most surprising: Vernon Hargreaves Least surprising: Breshad Perriman 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngusMcFife Posted September 26, 2023 Share Posted September 26, 2023 On 9/10/2023 at 10:02 AM, Hunter2_1 said: Not surprising busts for me; Manziel, N Harry, Winston, Ferrell, Hackenburg, Lance Surprising; Patrick Queen, Kevin White, Sol Thomas, Wilson Is Patrick Queen a bust? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter2_1 Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 11 hours ago, AngusMcFife said: Is Patrick Queen a bust? I wouldn't want to say for certain and not have someone like @AFlaccoSeagulls have a say. But from what I've seen, it's easy to deal with him. Just push him away from the play? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFlaccoSeagulls Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 4 hours ago, Hunter2_1 said: I wouldn't want to say for certain and not have someone like @AFlaccoSeagulls have a say. But from what I've seen, it's easy to deal with him. Just push him away from the play? He's absolutely not a bust. Last year and this year, or I guess ever since Roquan got here he's been a stud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter2_1 Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 31 minutes ago, AFlaccoSeagulls said: He's absolutely not a bust. Last year and this year, or I guess ever since Roquan got here he's been a stud. I could have sworn you said he was completely ineffective Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFlaccoSeagulls Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 1 hour ago, Hunter2_1 said: I could have sworn you said he was completely ineffective Before Roquan got here, yeah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngusMcFife Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 1 hour ago, Hunter2_1 said: I could have sworn you said he was completely ineffective He's a great LB when he's able to use his speed to blitz or run sideline to sideline. He's just not stout when he has to deal with blockers. The Ravens drafted him as a MIKE but he's a much better WILL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Reed Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 20 hours ago, Hunter2_1 said: I could have sworn you said he was completely ineffective He was really bad his first two years. I'm talking like, unable to make a tackle at the LB position bad. But he's done a complete 180 since the start of last season and is one of our better defensive players. It was quite the turnaround and frankly one I never saw coming Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngusMcFife Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 1 hour ago, Ray Reed said: He was really bad his first two years. I'm talking like, unable to make a tackle at the LB position bad. But he's done a complete 180 since the start of last season and is one of our better defensive players. It was quite the turnaround and frankly one I never saw coming Queen was 20 years old when he was drafted and did not have much playing experience in college, so it really isn't surprising that he had a slow start to his NFL career. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Reed Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 55 minutes ago, AngusMcFife said: Queen was 20 years old when he was drafted and did not have much playing experience in college, so it really isn't surprising that he had a slow start to his NFL career. Yeah I don't disagree, and I expected that on the mental front, but his first two years it was like he was afraid of contact. He legit couldn't tackle in the open field...I had never seen it that bad for a LB at any level before. I think he had a come to jesus moment at some point in the 2021 offseason though because he had to have seen how soft he looked on film. Completely different player now 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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