GDT: Week 4 - Ya’ll are lame as hell. The Bill Belichicks @ The Semi-Elite Dak Prescotts

[D82]

Goddamn it Edoga 

[NoFlyZone]

This would be wild lol.

[Northland]

3 minutes ago, HDsportsfan said:

Aren't we all lol

I believe Belichick was the QC coach on Marchibroda's  Colts staff when Jones was QB.  He was asked about Jones arm strength and he said something like he could throw a ball through a car wash and it would come out dry.

[Dallas94Ware]

It just me, or does Bill Belichick just look washed up?

I know you can say oh it's the Brady effect blah blah. But they fed off of each other. Belichick is a hell of a coach in his time (and cheated but hey).

But good coaches, hire good staffs and delegate well. They are up to speed to trends, they still find ways to be modern even when reusing the same base schematics for multiple decades..

Bill hasn't don't any of that, though. He has never really drafted all too well (Parcells built that early 2000s dynasty) but he leaned on Caserio (now in Houston) to help find perfect roleplayers for his system as UDFAs, cast offs from other teams, and the like. Then leaned on great play callers (Mangini, Crennel, McDaniels, Brian Flores, and many others) to call the key plays in key moments. While emphasizing perfection and mastery of the simple things on offense and defense so that they are insanely tough to beat - a perfect screen game, simple three step timing spread patterns with two routes designed to beat man, and two designed to beat zone, and a simple check down mixed in. Isolation run game with minimal line movement. Defensively? Keep everything in front of you - bend, don't break. Give up 4 yards all day long and eventually a team not as perfect will make a dumb mistake that gives you an extra possession. Solid special teams so you don't cost yourself a game in a stupid way. Never ask a player to do anything they aren't good at, even if it means they literally only ever do one thing when out there - long as they are perfect at their one thing, that's all the scheme needed to be effective with a smart play caller.

Now? He gave offensive playcalling last year to his defensive coordinator. Pushed his sons up the ranks to call plays likely before they were ready, or possibly, without really having a talent for it. His position coaches have all moved on in one way or another, and he replaced them with washups and failures out of loyalty. 

His schemes didn't need to change, they never did. But they always modernized. He took advantage of that 5 yard chuck rule to the point it became an emphasis that redefined the sport. He abused the pick plays to where that too, became a new point of emphasis. He brought in Moss for a.short stint and added a fly route to his play call sheet for the first time, well, ever. He utilized two tight ends in a very old fashioned split end manner where both were closer to slot receivers than tight ends (split ends being an old fashioned position not tight to the line, but not wide enough to be considered a wide receiver or slot guy. He essentially created the hybrid corner/safety/linebacker position, where you didn't know if Rodney Harrison, Ty Law or Lawyer Milloy we're going to be out wide at corner, back deep at safety, or up near the line as a line backer....or where they might switch back to once the ball is snapped.

All of that is gone. No modernized look to his systems. No mastery of the simple stuff. Poor playcalling. Lackluster position coaches. Subpar drafting was always a thing, but now he also is missing that touch he had for finding cast offs who can play a key role to a pro bowl level but never amount to anything anywhere else they'd play.

The man is just ..sadly...washed up.

[D82]

DARON MOTHER****ING BLAND 

[textaz03]

Bland so the the Pick!!!!

[Northland]

4 minutes ago, Dallas94Ware said:

It just me, or does Bill Belichick just look washed up?

I know you can say oh it's the Brady effect blah blah. But they fed off of each other. Belichick is a hell of a coach in his time (and cheated but hey).

But good coaches, hire good staffs and delegate well. They are up to speed to trends, they still find ways to be modern even when reusing the same base schematics for multiple decades..

Bill hasn't don't any of that, though. He has never really drafted all too well (Parcells built that early 2000s dynasty) but he leaned on Caserio (now in Houston) to help find perfect roleplayers for his system as UDFAs, cast offs from other teams, and the like. Then leaned on great play callers (Mangini, Crennel, McDaniels, Brian Flores, and many others) to call the key plays in key moments. While emphasizing perfection and mastery of the simple things on offense and defense so that they are insanely tough to beat - a perfect screen game, simple three step timing spread patterns with two routes designed to beat man, and two designed to beat zone, and a simple check down mixed in. Isolation run game with minimal line movement. Defensively? Keep everything in front of you - bend, don't break. Give up 4 yards all day long and eventually a team not as perfect will make a dumb mistake that gives you an extra possession. Solid special teams so you don't cost yourself a game in a stupid way. Never ask a player to do anything they aren't good at, even if it means they literally only ever do one thing when out there - long as they are perfect at their one thing, that's all the scheme needed to be effective with a smart play caller.

Now? He gave offensive playcalling last year to his defensive coordinator. Pushed his sons up the ranks to call plays likely before they were ready, or possibly, without really having a talent for it. His position coaches have all moved on in one way or another, and he replaced them with washups and failures out of loyalty. 

His schemes didn't need to change, they never did. But they always modernized. He took advantage of that 5 yard chuck rule to the point it became an emphasis that redefined the sport. He abused the pick plays to where that too, became a new point of emphasis. He brought in Moss for a.short stint and added a fly route to his play call sheet for the first time, well, ever. He utilized two tight ends in a very old fashioned split end manner where both were closer to slot receivers than tight ends (split ends being an old fashioned position not tight to the line, but not wide enough to be considered a wide receiver or slot guy. He essentially created the hybrid corner/safety/linebacker position, where you didn't know if Rodney Harrison, Ty Law or Lawyer Milloy we're going to be out wide at corner, back deep at safety, or up near the line as a line backer....or where they might switch back to once the ball is snapped.

All of that is gone. No modernized look to his systems. No mastery of the simple stuff. Poor playcalling. Lackluster position coaches. Subpar drafting was always a thing, but now he also is missing that touch he had for finding cast offs who can play a key role to a pro bowl level but never amount to anything anywhere else they'd play.

The man is just ..sadly...washed up.

The game catches up to and passes by everybody.

[NoFlyZone]

Bland is filthy. He was thinking 6 points again.

[D82]

Line needs to start blocking a bit better 

[Northland]

I'd bring in Schoonmaker and say okay pick 58 show us what you can do.

[D82]

Just now, Northland said:

I'd bring in Schoonmaker and say okay pick 58 show us what you can do.

Drop the ball 

[D82]

Edoga WTF

[textaz03]

Red Zone offense falters again smfh 

[HDsportsfan]

I think I would have ran to get that 1 yard.

[Dallas94Ware]

1 minute ago, Northland said:

The game catches up to and passes by everybody.

Yeah. It's crazy when you think that some of the top coaches now aren't even the jock, hard nosed, former player types anymore. I mean, there's a few...Vrabel, Ryans in his first year, Dan Campbell ... but the majority of the new big time coaching hires are like....the nerds. The chess team guys.

Like Sean McVay and Mike McDaniels, Kyle Shannahan (grew up under his pops, but is still so new age). Even Sean Payton in a way, whatever brother that is in Green Bay now I always mix up their names. The guys in Indy and Arizona (and the last guy in Arizona)

It's all about the chess board. The outsmarting, the creative engineering, spreading the field and finding ways to work the handicaps of the new defensive rules to your advantage. Not just spreading the field to go vertical, but spreading it to cause more disadvantage for the defense. Getting passers who would never cut it in the old generation and having them be all pros in year one or year two because you spread the field and ask them to make two reads max. 

That out working, out hustling, two practices a day, putting on 25 pounds of muscle so you don't die as a rookie QB, needing to study complex reads for three years before even having a chance...that is all gone now isn't it.

Man I feel old.

And this game is over. I'm going to log off and watch from bed until I fall asleep.