FloydFan Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 7 minutes ago, big_palooka said: Held out for what? A trade? Imagine having that leverage. He'd have gotten 45+ million. I mean yeah a trade. It was obvious he was done with the raiders at that point and he absolutely did have that leverage with his salary figure. They either pay him to sit on the bench or cut him and he can go elsewhere. When he got benched he was done with this franchise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCOUGHMAN Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 44 minutes ago, agarcia34 said: Lol thank god for pierce really starting to look like a sabotage job from wild bill and ne. is he climbing up the worst hc ladder yet? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackinBlack Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 20 minutes ago, big_palooka said: Held out for what? A trade? Imagine having that leverage. He'd have gotten 45+ million. I dont believe you get the money if you hold out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloydFan Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 4 minutes ago, BackinBlack said: I dont believe you get the money if you hold out? You don’t. You’d only get bonuses that weren’t tied to like workouts and what not. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackinBlack Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 Just now, FloydFan said: You don’t. You’d only get bonuses that weren’t tied to like workouts and what not. I think Mark knew that 50% of the fan base was done with Carr anyways. He knew it got ugly, and past the point of no return, so just cut bait. yes riders could of played the sit on bench / hold out game, but I think Mark did him a solid and let him be free. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agarcia34 Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 Josh only liked 1 QB in the first round. Stroud has been awesome. Richardson looked good before he got hurt. Was extremely explosive. The QB he liked so far has hit and miss so far mostly miss. Not great Josh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloydFan Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 1 minute ago, BackinBlack said: I think Mark knew that 50% of the fan base was done with Carr anyways. He knew it got ugly, and past the point of no return, so just cut bait. yes riders could of played the sit on bench / hold out game, but I think Mark did him a solid and let him be free. That and wanted the cap space that would be tied to a hold out to secure the next QB. Once Carr was benched he was never going to play another snap for this franchise again. His ego would not ever have allowed it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy408 Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 1 hour ago, big_palooka said: Something is off with the asked Carr to come back part. All they had to do was pay him. They controlled his rights. Yea but at that point you benched him so now he knows you don't want him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy408 Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, agarcia34 said: This guy. Lol McDaniels probably was gonna fire Pierce for that until he got fired lol Edited November 5, 2023 by Jeremy408 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronjon1990 Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Styrian Raider said: Tell me you're 12 without telling me that you're 12. Idk man, the way some people defended McDaniels through thick and thin up until it became "cool" to want him gone, they deserve to he called out. It wasn't but a few weeks ago I was being called a fake fake for pointing out it was clear the locker room couldn't stand the guy. I don't know about you, but I sorta wanna keep track of the closet Patriots fans. Defending Josh McDaniels was so obviously the wrong move it's damn near criminally negligent. And I have absolutely no doubt if we were 7-1 right now, those of us who wanted McDaniels gone would be getting eviscerated. Edited November 5, 2023 by ronjon1990 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucksavage1 Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 Wow some blunders in from McDaniels and Ziegler since being hired. Some we knew and others were surprising -For all the flack DZ got, he did help modernize the front offices and scouting departments. Gotta give him credit for that but guilty by association - Giving Derek Carr a no trade clause, then locking us to get no compensation - No having advance scouting reports on the 2023 QBs so we were beat to the trade - Low balling Jared Stidham with a 1 year , 3million deal - Believing Jimmy G already knew the complicated offense and signing him when he needed another surgery -Not giving Aidan 1st team reps during Chargers week - Starting Hoyer vs Bears which a LOT of coaches and players disagreed with. Even Hoyer was surprised Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucksavage1 Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 "Don't ever talk about the Patriots like that." Yea go back to NE with the garbage 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCOUGHMAN Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 5 minutes ago, bucksavage1 said: "Don't ever talk about the Patriots like that." Yea go back to NE with the garbage Surprised he walked out after that lol. would’ve been like full metal jacket lock the door and get the soap and socks ready 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big_palooka Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 2 hours ago, Jeremy408 said: Yea but at that point you benched him so now he knows you don't want him Point is, he was under contract. Brady retiring, they could have paid out his bonus. He either plays or asks for a trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy408 Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 13 minutes ago, big_palooka said: Point is, he was under contract. Brady retiring, they could have paid out his bonus. He either plays or asks for a trade. He would've sat. They made his wife cry lol. And they weren't gonna take that risk(which was one of the few smart things that Ziegler did) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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