vike daddy Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 11 minutes ago, RpMc said: What the hell am I supposed to complain about now? Oliver's excessive salary. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VikeManDan Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 Great win and another potential tie-breaker in favor of the Vikings. Would've liked to break the 30-point barrier for a 2nd game in a row but credit to the Saints D in the 2nd half. Offense being able to ice the game with a drive on any of their final 3 drives would've been a nice cherry on top (all 3 drives were 3-and-out). Nice for the defense to step up when put in those situations! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RpMc Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 2 minutes ago, vike daddy said: Oliver's excessive salary. He was among the top graded players too! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDBrocks Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDBrocks Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 8 hours ago, CriminalMind said: If Vikings plan is to draft QB and want to keep Dobbs, its going to come down to how much, as Dobbs is pushing up his future contract value now I hope he lands himself a $35m AAV contract. That would be great for the Vikings. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDBrocks Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 Might have been early to give up on Ed. He's not stepping on feet and forcing fumbles anymore. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RpMc Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 1 minute ago, JDBrocks said: Might have been early to give up on Ed. He's not stepping on feet and forcing fumbles anymore. It's like rookies need time adjusting to the NFL! He's played quite well, and the unit as a whole has been strong and gelled nicely. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wcblack34 Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 2 hours ago, RpMc said: He was among the top graded players too! BECAUSE HE BRIBED THEM FOR THAT GRADE WITH HIS MILLIONS!!! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDBrocks Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 Evans and Murphy have been very good against these bunch formation screens this year. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robb_K Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 6 hours ago, JDBrocks said: Andrew Booth had some nice ST plays yesterday and 17 defensive snaps. He's had a long road with injuries, but it seems like it's starting to click. Yes, it's beginning to appear that Booth has a good chance of, at least becoming a serviceable NFL CB, which is good news. We're still hoping he'll become a regular starting CB for The Vikings. And, if he could do THAT, and progress from there to become an above average starting CB, so much the better. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AP_allday2869 Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 7 hours ago, JDBrocks said: Blackmon 👀 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingsrule Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 6 minutes ago, AP_allday2869 said: Blackmon 👀 I’m more surprised by Mundt. Oliver isn’t even a top 2 TE on this team, what a waste! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robb_K Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, vikingsrule said: I’m more surprised by Mundt. Oliver isn’t even a top 2 TE on this team, what a waste! I hope you're kidding, right??? Much of our offensive schemes require using a tight end as an extra blocker. Oliver fits that need to a tee, being the best (or one of the top few best), blocker in The NFL. Plus, he has a good % of catches on passes targeted to him. Mundt gets significantly less snaps, and so, every individual snap has more effect on his PFF grade. He has a VERY high ratio of catches to his targets because on most of his passes he has been schemed wide open, because opponents think the pass is not going to go to him (because he is in so little). When he's in and catches an important pass (which happens on a high proportion of his targets) it really makes his Grade rise very high. Oliver, on the other hand, suffers from often having to block very highly graded defensive linemen (mostly edge rushers). When comparing those two players, it would be much more telling to compare each in pass and run blocking, and route running and pass catching, each category separately. I'd venture a guess that Oliver is a lot more important to this team than Mundt, given that the passing game is much more important, and I believe that Oliver is in on a significantly higher amount of pass blocking assignments than Mundt. Edited November 14, 2023 by Robb_K Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Worm Guts Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 6 hours ago, Robb_K said: I hope you're kidding, right??? Much of our offensive schemes require using a tight end as an extra blocker. Oliver fits that need to a tee, being the best (or one of the top few best), blocker in The NFL. Plus, he has a good % of catches on passes targeted to him. Mundt gets significantly less snaps, and so, every individual snap has more effect on his PFF grade. He has a VERY high ratio of catches to his targets because on most of his passes he has been schemed wide open, because opponents think the pass is not going to go to him (because he is in so little). When he's in and catches an important pass (which happens on a high proportion of his targets) it really makes his Grade rise very high. Oliver, on the other hand, suffers from often having to block very highly graded defensive linemen (mostly edge rushers). When comparing those two players, it would be much more telling to compare each in pass and run blocking, and route running and pass catching, each category separately. I'd venture a guess that Oliver is a lot more important to this team than Mundt, given that the passing game is much more important, and I believe that Oliver is in on a significantly higher amount of pass blocking assignments than Mundt. You haven't been paying attention to the bit. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wcblack34 Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 10 hours ago, vikingsrule said: I’m more surprised by Mundt. Oliver isn’t even a top 2 TE on this team, what a waste! Oliver has set this franchise back to the Les Steckel years!!! Truth be told, I think he's a Packer plant! His real name is Lambeau Lombardi and he was born in Wisconsin to cheese farming parents. He attended elementary school at Brett Favre Preparatory School in Green Bay. There, he played volleyball in the University of Southern Mississippi Memorial stadium (sponsored by the Mississippi Department of Health and Welfare). While he excelled in volleyball, his hatred of all things Minnesota festered and he switched to football. When he attended the Aaron Rodgers Football/Psychadelic Substances For Beginners Camp, Rodgers approached him about about infiltrating the Vikings during the 2023 season. He jumped at the chance to please his Packer overlord. Oliver was a quick study and realized that, not only could he infiltrate the Vikings and drag them down during games, but he could outmaneuver Kwesi in contract negotiations. His exorbitant contract would allow him to simultaneously drag down the team with his play AND prevent the team from signing players who could mitigate the damage he caused on the field. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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