pf9 Posted December 31, 2023 Author Share Posted December 31, 2023 Read this thread it contains some pertinent info to here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pf9 Posted December 31, 2023 Author Share Posted December 31, 2023 And as explained in one of the posts in that thread, removing seeding priority from division winners could help discourage playoff teams from resting key starters in late-season games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CasperX22 Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 20 minutes ago, pf9 said: Besides, people were fine with wild card teams opening the playoffs at home (and division winners on the road) when there were just six divisions. We will be fine with that now. Not at the expense of division winners. Also, when it was introduced initially we weekend was literally 2 WC:s facing off with the other division winners getting the week off before expanding. Your arguments are getting weirder and still failing to make a legitimate argument for why a WC team deserves a home game. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pf9 Posted December 31, 2023 Author Share Posted December 31, 2023 1 minute ago, CasperX22 said: Not at the expense of division winners. Also, when it was introduced initially we weekend was literally 2 WC:s facing off with the other division winners getting the week off before expanding. Your arguments are getting weirder and still failing to make a legitimate argument for why a WC team deserves a home game. They're only illegitimate to you. Without seeding priority for division winners, the same division producing the top 2 seeds and having them meet in the conference title game would create perhaps the biggest game in the history of that division rivalry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CasperX22 Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 No I just don't think you understand the purpose of playoffs. You also have failed to in any way answer my question which tells me your only argument for why you want to reseed playoff teams is because you don't like the format. That's not a reason. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pf9 Posted December 31, 2023 Author Share Posted December 31, 2023 14 minutes ago, CasperX22 said: No I just don't think you understand the purpose of playoffs. You also have failed to in any way answer my question which tells me your only argument for why you want to reseed playoff teams is because you don't like the format. That's not a reason. The purpose of the playoffs is to determine a champion - that's it. Again, there is precedent. And in many things precedent matters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CasperX22 Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 No, you clearly don't not. Divisions were created for a reason and you clearly do not get that. There isn't even precedent for what you are suggesting 😂. You have zero leg to stand on whatsoever, and i'm even giving you an out, but you clearly have nothing. You're clearly wasting everyone's time. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancerman Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 This is pretty simple and it's the same answer every single time this notion is brought up. 1. Every team faces a different schedule. 2. The teams within a division have the closest schedule to each other. 3. The fairest comparison between teams for playoff placement is to compare the 4 teams with almost identical schedules, that also face each other multiple times. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancerman Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 On 12/29/2023 at 8:39 PM, Football_Bachelor08 said: I agree wholeheartedly. The current format rewards teams who played mediocre football as long as they ended up being the least mediocre in their group. Meanwhile it punishes 11 or 12 win teams for the crime of playing in a tougher division You do realize this scenario is just as likely. A) A team in one division finishes 10-7 against a very difficult schedule and secures a top 4 seed. B) A seperate division has all of it's teams playing a piss easy schedule because they got a good draw in the opposite conference division (something mediocre like the NFC South) and they all feasted so you have a 13 win team, an 11 win team and a 10 win team. All 3 end up as wildcards. You aren't comparing apples to apples either way. The 3 other teams in a division are always going to be the fairest comparison for any team. Hence why, winning the division has the most weight when it comes to the playoffs. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pf9 Posted December 31, 2023 Author Share Posted December 31, 2023 The Ravens are winning 35-13 as we speak. The Browns are on their way to having the longest active home playoff game drought. At this rate the NFL should just move this season's Super Bowl to Cleveland and give 62 to Las Vegas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 17 hours ago, pf9 said: Read this thread it contains some pertinent info to here 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INbengalfan Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 1 hour ago, pf9 said: The Ravens are winning 35-13 as we speak. The Browns are on their way to having the longest active home playoff game drought. At this rate the NFL should just move this season's Super Bowl to Cleveland and give 62 to Las Vegas. So the Browns should host the Ravens no doubt right? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pf9 Posted December 31, 2023 Author Share Posted December 31, 2023 Just now, INbengalfan said: So the Browns should host the Ravens no doubt right? That's not how my proposal works. What I am saying is the 7 playoff teams in each conference should be seeded according to their record, with tie-breakers if needed, without guaranteeing a top 4 seed for division winners. I applaud the NBA for having realized the problems with seeding priority for division winners. But in that league at least every playoff participant is guaranteed a home game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INbengalfan Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 25 minutes ago, pf9 said: That's not how my proposal works. What I am saying is the 7 playoff teams in each conference should be seeded according to their record, with tie-breakers if needed, without guaranteeing a top 4 seed for division winners. I applaud the NBA for having realized the problems with seeding priority for division winners. But in that league at least every playoff participant is guaranteed a home game. I have 10 pages this year, countless more from years past to understand the proposal. So what is the point of the post I quoted? That Cleveland deserves to host the Super Bowl? What an empty take. I mean, Indy lost their starting QB, was left for dead several games behind the Jags, and yet are tied for the division title with one game to play. Should the league arbitrarily move the SB there too? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pf9 Posted December 31, 2023 Author Share Posted December 31, 2023 14 minutes ago, INbengalfan said: I have 10 pages this year, countless more from years past to understand the proposal. So what is the point of the post I quoted? That Cleveland deserves to host the Super Bowl? What an empty take. I mean, Indy lost their starting QB, was left for dead several games behind the Jags, and yet are tied for the division title with one game to play. Should the league arbitrarily move the SB there too? Cleveland Browns Stadium is the oldest NFL stadium never to have hosted a playoff game of any sort. This is a by-product of the NFL not handling the Modell situation correctly. What the NFL should have done in 1995 was force Modell to sell the Browns to an owner willing to keep the team in Cleveland, while the team would temporarily play games at Ohio State while the new stadium was under construction, where the Browns would have been treated to OSU's gameday traditions in the process, while Modell is awarded a version of the Ravens built through an expansion draft in 1998, meaning Memorial Stadium would never see a Ravens game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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