Blue Posted Thursday at 02:27 PM Share Posted Thursday at 02:27 PM Shoutout to @Ragnarok for somehow having fewer cornerbacks than me with more than two years of experience Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragnarok Posted Thursday at 03:12 PM Share Posted Thursday at 03:12 PM 44 minutes ago, Blue said: Shoutout to @Ragnarok for somehow having fewer cornerbacks than me with more than two years of experience The position needed a rehaul. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirA1 Posted Thursday at 03:23 PM Share Posted Thursday at 03:23 PM 9 minutes ago, Ragnarok said: The position needed a rehaul. Yeah that's what I drafted for this year heavily to get some depth behind my 2 All Pro starters and rising Branch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EaglesPeteC Posted Friday at 01:21 PM Share Posted Friday at 01:21 PM S Anchorage Franchise Cornerstone: Jesse Bates Quality Starter: Talanoa Hufanga+ Competitive Starter: Caden Stearns Quality Depth: Richie Grant, Percy Butler, Christian Izien Total Points: 17pts Shut up Scoundrel Cancun Quality Starter: Marcus Williams+, Geno Stone, Jalen Pitre Quality Depth; Darnell Savage Total Points: 14pts A great 3 pack of complementary skill sets even though I don’t think Marcus Williams is quite the cornerstone he was anymore New Orleans Franchise Cornerstone: Derwin James Quality Starter: Julian Love Competitive Starter: Taylor Rapp Quality Depth: Adrian Amos Incomplete Evaluation: Tykee Smith Replacement Level: Micah Hyde Total Points: 14pts Derwin is a cornerstone and Love is a great running mate for him Berlin Franchise Cornerstone: Antoine Winfield Jr+ Competitive Starter: Juan Thornhill, Cameron Bynum Incomplete Evaluation: LJ Skinner Total Points: 12pts The All Pro Winfield is the headliner and a couple nice compliments to him to play next to him. Raleigh Quality Starter: Budda Baker+ Competitive Starter: Justin Reid+, Reed Blankenship, Ifeatu Melifonwu Total Points: 12pts Baker isn’t quite the superstar he was a couple years ago, but still a high quality safety with 3 strong competitive starters behind him lands Raleigh in the top 5. Lancaster Franchise Cornerstone: Minkah Fitzpatrick+ Competitive Starter: Jai’ayir Brown Quality Depth: Jasson Pinnock, Darrick Forest Total Points: 12pts Minkah is an impact player in the back end but some depth is left to be desired. Rome Franchise Cornerstone: Kyle Hamilton+ Quality Starter: Andre Cisco Incomplete Evaluation: Dadrion Taylor Demerson Total Points: 12pts A pretty impressive ranking for only having 2 players contributing points. Cuba Franchise Cornerstone: Xavier McKinney Quality Starter; Chauncy Gardner Johnson Replacement Level: JT Woods, Justin Simmons Total Points: 11pts Maybe the best duo in BDL. If/when Simmons signs, Cuba will easily find themselves in the top 5. Svalbard Quality Starter: Jabrill Peppers Competitive Starter: Kam Curl, Alohi Gillman, Quentin Lake Incomplete Evaluation: Sydney Brown, Juanyah Thomas Replacement Level: Tycen Anderson Total Points: 10pts There is a lot of depth and quality here but a lack of superstar talent. Hungary Quality Starter: Harrison Smith Competitive Starter: Kevin Byard Quality Depth: Russ Yeast, DeMarrco Hellmans, Rodney Thomas, Quan Martin Incomplete Evaluation: Malik Mustapha Total Points: 10pts Hungary raiding the retirement home for their starting duo. A couple intriguing names behind them, but nothing I’d be comfortable relying on if needed. Las Vegas Franchise Cornerstone: Javon Holland Competitive Starter: Xavier Woods Quality Depth: Jeremy Chinn Total Points: 10pts Holland and Woods are a strong duo. Chinn hasn’t developed into the player we thought after a strong start to his career. Ivory Coast Quality Starter; Kyle Dugger+ Competitive Starter: Jordan Fuller, Jordan Whitehead Replacement Level: Lewis Cine Total Points: 9pts Dugger is a strong headliner and Fuller and Whitehead are good BDL starters. A strong trio but a lack of a true to end talent maybe slides them back a bit. Akureyri Competitive Starter: Grant Delpit, Kerby Joseph Quality Depth: Bryan Cook, Jordan Battle, Nick Cross, Incomplete Evaluation: Kam Kintchens Replacement Level: Marquese Bell Total Points: 8pts Delpit and Joseph are a pretty intriguing duo with upside. Cook, Battle, Cross and Kintchens are a lot of young players that should have opportunity to prove this to be a better group than this ranking suggests. Quebec Competitive Starter: Malik Hooker+, Jaquan Brisker Incomplete Evaluation: Jaden Hicks Total Points: 5pts A strong due in Hooker and Brisker but absolutely no depth behind them Greenland Quality Starter: Tyrann Mathieu Quality Depth: Jordan Poyer Incomplete Evaluation: Calen Bullock Total Points: 5pts Another geriatric crew that Greenland hopes will age like wine but might be aging like milk and no proven depth behind them in case the milk goes sour. CWM Competitive Starter: Trevon Moehrig+ Quality Depth: Dane Belton Incomplete Evaluation: Tyler Nubin, Antonio Johnson Total Points: 4pts Moehrig and Belton might be a passable duo, but they really need to add some impact from the tank 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Posted Friday at 01:48 PM Share Posted Friday at 01:48 PM How is Caden Sterns a "Competitive Starter" when he's played 6 games over the last two years? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EaglesPeteC Posted Friday at 02:14 PM Share Posted Friday at 02:14 PM Defensive Rankings (the lower the number the better) Anchorage 15pts (Shut up Scoundrel) New Orleans 27pts Berlin 32pts Raleigh 32 pts Akureyri 33pts Quebec 38pts Rome 39pts Hungary 39pts Lancaster 40pts Cuba 41pts Svalbard 41pts Ivory Coast 48pts Cancun 51 pts Greenland 54pts CWM 65pts Las Vegas 67pts 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TL-TwoWinsAway Posted Friday at 02:39 PM Share Posted Friday at 02:39 PM Dude. I'm almost winning this thing. #ezpz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EaglesPeteC Posted Friday at 02:47 PM Share Posted Friday at 02:47 PM Power Rankings Adjusted for positional value Highest Value Positions- QB (-3 points for being in top 5) High Value Positions- WR, OL, EDGE, CB (-2 for being in top 5) Moderate Value Positions- DT, RB (-1 for being in top 5) Low Value Positions- LB, TE, S (you don’t get shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit) Anchorage- 52pts Cancun 64pts Berlin- 66pts Rome 67pts New Orleans 68pts Svalbard 72pts Akureyri 73pts Raleigh 74pts Ivory Coast 80pts Lancaster 81pts Cuba 84pts Hungary 84pts Greenland 88pts Quebec 93pts Las Vegas 101pts CWM- 119pts 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WFLukic Posted Friday at 07:52 PM Share Posted Friday at 07:52 PM 5th without an OL is nice. 50k in tank to plug the holes. Our demise has been greatly exaggerated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikes635 Posted yesterday at 05:18 AM Share Posted yesterday at 05:18 AM On 6/26/2024 at 7:18 AM, Ragnarok said: No, no he doesn't. Both players crush Mixon on yards per carry which is what matters most. Plus, you can't watch the games and say Mixon has been more effective than either of those guys. And all three guys have played 30 or 31 games over the last two years. I wouldn't call .6 YPC "crushed" I wouldn't even say .7 Cornerstone Barkley or .8 fellow quality starter T. Etienne would fit that description but sure better than on the supposed "most important stat" we won't mention the 1.7 YPR Mixon had on these two or the fact he touched the ball 45-60 times more than either with 0 FL (some say most important stat?) unlike the those two. But I didn't make the statement to defend Mixon's past, I believe with the improved O-line and still high power offense he shows us improved stats better than what he produced the past couple seasons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Posted 23 hours ago Share Posted 23 hours ago (edited) 8 hours ago, vikes635 said: I wouldn't call .6 YPC "crushed" I wouldn't even say .7 Cornerstone Barkley or .8 fellow quality starter T. Etienne would fit that description but sure better than on the supposed "most important stat" we won't mention the 1.7 YPR Mixon had on these two or the fact he touched the ball 45-60 times more than either with 0 FL (some say most important stat?) unlike the those two. But I didn't make the statement to defend Mixon's past, I believe with the improved O-line and still high power offense he shows us improved stats better than what he produced the past couple seasons Even "just" .5 YPC is a massive difference at the NFL level. Consider you have Player A averaging 4.5 YPC and Player B averaging 5.0 YPC. Across 200 carries (which is only around 12 carries per game, so not exactly a traditional workhorse back), Player A totals 900 yards while Player B totals 1000 yards. This is only 7-8 yards per game on average, but that's nearly an extra first down per game--and again, we aren't even talking about an every-down player. If we look at Mixon specifically, he was 5th in the NFL with 257 carries. If we assume Swift maintains his YPA over the same number of carries, Swift produces 148 rushing yards more than Mixon, nearly 9 yards per game more (8.7 extra YPG)--effectively an extra first down per game. That's a big difference, especially if you consider that Swift is more likely to produce that higher YPA through a single big chunk play rather than grinding out a little extra yardage each time he touches the ball. Of course, that's not really how this works because YPA usually drops off quite heavily around the 220 carries mark and no one can reasonably expect a historically-fragile player like Swift to maintain that level of effectiveness at that level. But I am a strong believer in per-play efficiency and Mixon is not efficient at all. He's been on a very downward trajectory for years now, and I think Houston could have done better at the position while using fewer resources to do it. You know what, I'm not going to stick with Mixon being inefficient overall. He's actually been pretty solid in the passing game--but we do have to take into account the Cincinnati offensive talent and scheme around him. He got plenty of YAC room underneath thanks to Chase and Higgins on the outside along with Burrow's propensity for downfield passing, and personally I think that juiced his numbers a bit. Edited 23 hours ago by Blue 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikes635 Posted 13 hours ago Share Posted 13 hours ago 9 hours ago, Blue said: Of course, that's not really how this works because YPA usually drops off quite heavily around the 220 carries mark and no one can reasonably expect a historically-fragile player like Swift to maintain that level of effectiveness at that level Exactly glad you can see that, I like how you credit talent around him in the passing game to support your case but say nothing to the fact the offensive line talents between the teams are vastly different, not to mention Philly and KC draw plenty of attention away from their RBs in the passing game as well yet Mixon out performed both. Best ability is availability so I'm confused how a Swift or Pacheco makes it into a higher tier when statistically in every category Mixon out performed them except in YPC to which he slightly out performed names we all Barkley and Etienne but for some reason they get a pass and still crowned with a higher rank ( to which I agree btw ) but it doesn't support your YPC rebuttal. I do like the well thought out post back at me though Blue it was fun to feel the passion in your writing lol. I am also aware you didn't rank these RBs in the first place but you did decide to co-sign on them with Mixon anyway. It should be fun to watch the year play out and see if Mixon really is dust as you seem to believe or if in fact I am correct and he wows us 🙂... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragnarok Posted 11 hours ago Share Posted 11 hours ago 20 hours ago, vikes635 said: I wouldn't call .6 YPC "crushed" I wouldn't even say .7 Cornerstone Barkley or .8 fellow quality starter T. Etienne would fit that description but sure better than on the supposed "most important stat" we won't mention the 1.7 YPR Mixon had on these two or the fact he touched the ball 45-60 times more than either with 0 FL (some say most important stat?) unlike the those two. But I didn't make the statement to defend Mixon's past, I believe with the improved O-line and still high power offense he shows us improved stats better than what he produced the past couple seasons A half-yard difference per carry is huge for the reason blue stated. And Swift and Pacheco each lost one fumble, so its not like either of them lost a half-dozen fumbles or anything. Not to mention the eye test. Both Pacheco and Swift were far more dangerous and explosive than Mixon last year. I would have more faith in Mixon if he had gone from Carolina or Arizona or somewhere where he faced a loaded box. He had a light box every carry last year. I do think he can be a very solid 3rd down back due to receiving and blocking skills. But unlike Swift and Pacheco, I don't think he can be an NFL #1, much less a BDL #1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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