VigilantZombie Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 5 hours ago, warfelg said: The Jets WRs were good this year. The WR coach has nothing to do with the QB play being terrible. That's a fair point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigben07MVP Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 49 minutes ago, warfelg said: That's why I brought it up specifically, the biggest "failure" isn't even on him. Seems like guys he's worked with generally like him. He also coached Antonio Brown 3 years in College. On the other hand, Jerry Jeudy has been a massive disappointment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warfelg Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 3 minutes ago, bigben07MVP said: On the other hand, Jerry Jeudy has been a massive disappointment. Jeudy has been interesting. When you watch him he's done some really good things individually. He seems to be getting the ball in situations where he isn't as open, then gets ignored when he actually wins. I think he's kinda like Juju IMO where he's a "super-2" rather than the 1 that Denver has been using him as at times. Here's an interesting thing to think of: Jeudy 2023: 11 GS, 16 games, 87 targets, 54 catches, 758 yards, 2 TD, 47.4 yards per game, 62% catch% Johnson 2023: 11 GS, 13 games, 87 targets, 51 catches, 717 yards, 5 TD, 55.2 yards per game, 59% catch% Jeudy career: 57 games, 44 starts, 356 targets, 211 catches, 3053 yards, 11 TD, 54 yards per game, 59% catch% Johnson career: 77 games, 67 starts, 639 targets, 391 catches, 4369 yards, 25 TD, 57 yards per game, 61% catch% Jeudy per year: 89 targets, 53 catches, 763 yards, 3 TD Johnson per year: 127 targets, 78 catches, 873 yards, 5 TD I dunno what I'm showing here, but the real difference between Johnson and Jeudy looks to be just....opportunity. Yet nationally and from our writers Johnson gets love as underrated and underappreciated, and Jeudy gets hate as a bust. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warfelg Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 https://x.com/Steelersdepot/status/1756032441813434851?s=20 Looks like Sullivan would be out as of right now, and no clue who Mateo Kambui is but he was in ATL with Smith as an offensive assistant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armsteeld Posted February 9 Author Share Posted February 9 5 hours ago, warfelg said: That's why I brought it up specifically, the biggest "failure" isn't even on him. Seems like guys he's worked with generally like him. He also coached Antonio Brown 3 years in College. Hamler had a heart issue which slowed his development. Eventually he was cleared to resume play. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warfelg Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 https://x.com/alex_kozora/status/1756357086152142924?s=46&t=xd5QJpZuXv2k7qD0xqd6aA 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rivers Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 if Smith is responsible for cutting mitch, chuks, then this is a solid OC hire. Maybe we will get a C and OT with first 2 picks in the draft next? thank you Arthur Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOSteelers56 Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 16 hours ago, 3rivers said: if Smith is responsible for cutting mitch, chuks, then this is a solid OC hire. Maybe we will get a C and OT with first 2 picks in the draft next? thank you Arthur I would imagine this has a lot more to do with Khan/Weidl and your arch nemesis Tomlin. I doubt Smith had any input in this decision at all. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rlon Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 5 hours ago, MOSteelers56 said: I would imagine this has a lot more to do with Khan/Weidl and your arch nemesis Tomlin. I doubt Smith had any input in this decision at all. Agreed, but I would assert that it was just basic organizational common sense, a decision likely made a while ago and based on performance of 3 disappointing players who don’t deserve their contracts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
43M Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 11 hours ago, MOSteelers56 said: I would imagine this has a lot more to do with Khan/Weidl and your arch nemesis Tomlin. I doubt Smith had any input in this decision at all. In fairness, Khan and Weidl are the ones who foolishly extended Trubisky in the first place. As much as I liked what they did last year, that one made no sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warfelg Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 7 hours ago, 43M said: In fairness, Khan and Weidl are the ones who foolishly extended Trubisky in the first place. As much as I liked what they did last year, that one made no sense. I wish I still had the tweet but that extension had no new money. All they did was take what was owed and moved it from one year to two. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steeler Hitman Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 On 2/12/2024 at 7:06 PM, 3rivers said: if Smith is responsible for cutting mitch, chuks, then this is a solid OC hire. Maybe we will get a C and OT with first 2 picks in the draft next? thank you Arthur I almost thought you were going to give Tomlin some kudos for doing SOMETHING right. Way to go Arthur Smith! 🤣😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warfelg Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 27 minutes ago, Steeler Hitman said: I almost thought you were going to give Tomlin some kudos for doing SOMETHING right. Way to go Arthur Smith! 🤣😂 For a decision like this to come this fast, all parties likely agreed in season to make this move. 19 hours ago, MOSteelers56 said: I would imagine this has a lot more to do with Khan/Weidl and your arch nemesis Tomlin. I doubt Smith had any input in this decision at all. In a move with speed like this it likely was a combination of them talking about making these moves in season of they don't have a long term future with the team. When you cut players this fast too, it's usually the coach going to the GM and saying he's done with players X, Y, Z; would we be in financial trouble by letting them go; and the GM is the one that finalizes it. So as stated above, I think there was likely a moment where Tomlin asked that, the FO reminded him all 3 would be in the final year of their deals, and they agreed to pull the trigger sooner than later. What's interesting about this timing is that it sends a message to the players on the team of "you aren't safe, we'll cut you if you aren't working out", but at the same time it's a sign of respect for these players. Mitch and Chuks can go sign with anyone right now, so they have a head start on any other FA. So if the Raiders with their $11mil in cap space want Chuks, they can offer him a deal right now and bring him in, then they aren't fighting with someone like Chicago who will have a ton more space in a few weeks. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jebrick Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 8 hours ago, 43M said: In fairness, Khan and Weidl are the ones who foolishly extended Trubisky in the first place. As much as I liked what they did last year, that one made no sense. None of these things happen in a vacuum. I would guess( but do not know), that Tomlin and the GMs have a meeting and things are brought up. In the end, I think it is the Tomlin's decision but he needs Khan to say it can work for the cap. Even keeping players it is the same. We need to keep theses players can we fit it in the cap? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warfelg Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 2 minutes ago, jebrick said: None of these things happen in a vacuum. I would guess( but do not know), that Tomlin and the GMs have a meeting and things are brought up. In the end, I think it is the Tomlin's decision but he needs Khan to say it can work for the cap. Even keeping players it is the same. We need to keep theses players can we fit it in the cap? But it really wasn't a 'new money' extension: https://x.com/Steelersdepot/status/1736916248737538421?s=20 It just changed his cap hit least year and spread out some money. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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