SteelKing728 Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 Just now, vike daddy said: yikes, hopefully not for long if he does. and hopefully he won't. he'd be practicing with the 3rd string and not get his timing down well enough. That's what happened to Jordan Love back in 2020. It shouldn't be that shocking. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SemperFeist Posted May 20 Author Share Posted May 20 8 minutes ago, vike daddy said: yikes, hopefully not for long if he does. and hopefully he won't. he'd be practicing with the 3rd string and not get his timing down well enough. If McCarthy isn’t ready to be the starter for game 1, then he’s not ready to be the backup either. If the team is going to redshirt him, then they need to redshirt him. Which would mean being QB3 come game day. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vike daddy Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 6 minutes ago, SemperFeist said: If McCarthy isn’t ready to be the starter for game 1, then he’s not ready to be the backup either. If the team is going to redshirt him, then they need to redshirt him. Which would mean being QB3 come game day. interesting way of looking at it... but then, there's this too, regarding a 3rd string QB being ready to play: As New York’s third-string quarterback, Tommy DeVito compiled a 3-3 record in his six starts from Week 10 through Week 16. He finished his rookie season with a 64 percent completion rate, 1,101 passing yards, eight touchdowns, and three interceptions in nine appearances. He also rushed for 195 yards with a TD. https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/tommy-devito-everyone-has-always-been-overlooked-its-the-same-deal-i-was-in-last-year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VikeManDan Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 Trust your process and don't rush it. Block out the outside noise. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SemperFeist Posted May 20 Author Share Posted May 20 20 minutes ago, vike daddy said: interesting way of looking at it... but then, there's this too, regarding a 3rd string QB being ready to play: As New York’s third-string quarterback, Tommy DeVito compiled a 3-3 record in his six starts from Week 10 through Week 16. He finished his rookie season with a 64 percent completion rate, 1,101 passing yards, eight touchdowns, and three interceptions in nine appearances. He also rushed for 195 yards with a TD. https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/tommy-devito-everyone-has-always-been-overlooked-its-the-same-deal-i-was-in-last-year DeVito being the 3rd string QB had nothing to do with his readiness to play. He was never going to be anything more than QB3 from the get go. Jones was the unquestioned starter, and Taylor was the unquestioned backup. If McCarthy is ready to play, he’s going to start. There’s no reason for him not to. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vike daddy Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 i suppose having McCarthy as the #3 QB to start off would be good for all three QB's. i'm assuming Mullens will eventually not be one of them. Darnold gets the first team reps and the ability to "keep" his job by his performance, enhancing his value. McCarthy has to compete with Hall to move up a rung, and Hall can fight to keep what he has earned so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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vike daddy Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 It’s entirely possible that McCarthy doesn’t start the season at the helm for the Vikings. Minnesota signed former San Francisco 49ers quarterback Sam Darnold in the offseason, and he — at least for the moment — is the presumed Week 1 starter. But that doesn’t stop ESPN’s Jordan Reid for setting some lofty goals for what McCarthy’s future could look like. In his look at what McCarthy could blossom into, Reid projects that the young quarterback could develop into the type of player who leads the league in QBR on play-action passes within the next five years. QBR is a measure that seeks to encapsulate all that a quarterback contributes to his team’s winning, and it highly rewards quarterbacks who are efficient—an area Reid believes McCarthy should be able to shine in with the Vikings’ offense. Reid points out that the Vikings led the league in both snaps under center and play-action, an area that McCarthy excelled at while at Michigan. He compiled a 76.3% completion percentage and 90.4 QBR on such plays during his time with the Wolverines. https://vikingswire.usatoday.com/2024/05/20/espns-jordan-reid-has-lofty-expectation-for-j-j-mccarthys-future/?utm_campaign=trueanthem&utm_medium=trueanthem&utm_source=facebook&fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR0e-JCgry3t6RAznnXYGsHs8SROIHlwHYvO7xrpZ0QKIFUqvXCZMmpp4_I_aem_AempGeG9Xrd6WDaYSJx9WokUHhM0m-x3X9CZ2mM4gg22ybZ48F-fzaQ5VOYiZelB2DRmWredAHITo-gHYBso3RAG 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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vike daddy Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 6 hours ago, swede700 said: it will be a sad reality if this isn't true. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelKing728 Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 I just saw that. I guess his 61mph ball velocity is no joke! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelKing728 Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 https://x.com/TPPSkol/status/1793048998351155202?t=2xcA3Sz4BhbcFIy4biJv2g&s=19 That's not surprising to anyone here I think. He needs time before he can even get to QB2. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swede700 Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 Quote But was Williams placed into the best situation for a quarterback taken early in the NFL draft in recent history? To answer that question, I looked at every QB selected in the top 12 picks since 1990 (which includes this year's first-round passers), plus three No. 1 overall picks from the 1980s. Quarterbacks were judged based on the roster the year they were drafted, even if they didn't play as a rookie. From there, I came up with three sets of rankings -- five best situations for No. 1 overall picks, 10 best situations for highly drafted first-round QBs and five worst scenarios for highly drafted first-rounders. Best situations for top-12 picks 4. J.J. McCarthy, 2024 Vikings (No. 10) McCarthy starts his career with a great pair of receivers. Justin Jefferson might be the best receiver in the league right now, while Jordan Addison had 70 catches for 911 yards and 10 touchdowns as a rookie. After that, Brandon Powell and Trent Sherfield are trustworthy veterans. 1. Daunte Culpepper, 1999 Vikings (No. 11) Randy Moss, Cris Carter and Jake Reed at receiver! Robert Smith and Leroy Hoard at running back! Even tight end Andrew Glover had 522 receiving yards and five touchdowns in 1998. Plus, three Minnesota offensive linemen made the Pro Bowl in 1998. There has never been a first-round quarterback drafted into an offense as good as the one Culpepper joined in 1999. Culpepper, however, did not throw a pass in his rookie season. https://www.espn.com/nfl/insider/story/_/id/40160703/ranking-first-round-draft-quarterbacks-best-supporting-casts-caleb-williams-bears 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vike daddy Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 The spring is about coaching up players on their technique, installing offensive and defensive schemes, and aiming to get better through repetition. To that end, it's notable that the Vikings are working with rookie quarterback J.J. McCarthy on a specific element of his footwork. They're having start with his left foot forward when he's receiving snaps out of the shotgun, which is a change from what he did at Michigan. Wes Phillips: "We've got him with the left foot up stance, which is a little different for him. So just kind of adjusting how you're used to standing in the gun, with your left foot up or if you're used to more of a square stance or some people are right foot up. Trying to get everybody kind of on the same page with how we do it and how it times up with all of our concepts. He's doing well with it thus far." "The NFL is such a timing and rhythm-based passing game, whereas, at times, in college, there's a little more bouncing around or just kind of shuffling around. Sometimes, quarterbacks aren't really given drops, it's a little bit on them to feel it out, and 'how many steps do I need to take to get this ball out on time?' Just defining those things, I think, helps these guys operate in the system. It takes a little bit of time on the front end to learn and adjust." The Vikings want him standing with the left foot forward, presumably for reasons related to timing. That's how they had Kirk Cousins and all of their other quarterbacks stand in the shotgun. It'll be interesting to hear from McCarthy at some point on how he's doing with that adjustment. He dropped one shotgun snap for a fumble during Tuesday's OTA, but he also showed some positive signs during that practice. https://www.si.com/nfl/vikings/vikings-working-mechanical-tweak-rookie-qb-jj-mccarthy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vike daddy Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 Wes Phillips: "J.J. has come in, he's been a sponge, he's been preparing on his own, it shows up that he's working on his own. Everything we give him, he's studying at night. And then on the field, you see the talent. The reason why we liked him were all those things. The intangibles of J.J. McCarthy, the things he does outside the building to get better, but also, you see the talent out here, you see the arm, you see the juice that he's got when he lets go of the football. It's real early, OTA 2, but we feel like he's right where he needs to be right now." https://www.si.com/nfl/vikings/vikings-working-mechanical-tweak-rookie-qb-jj-mccarthy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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