7DnBrnc53 Posted July 13 Share Posted July 13 On 7/10/2024 at 12:20 PM, iknowcool said: I read that the Bears were *this* close to drafting Joe Montana. The head scout pushed for him and they were prepared to do it until the GM stepped in last minute and stopped them from doing so, believing they were fine at the QB position https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/1792322/2020/05/05/what-if-the-bears-had-drafted-joe-montana/ Does Joe Montana still develop into one of the greatest? Does Buddy Ryan, who was there with Ditka in '79, still build up one of the best defenses ever? Who ends up being the QB for Bill Walsh and the 49ers, and do we get the 49ers dynasty? Not only did the Bears pass up on Montana, but they passed on Kellen Winslow in Round 1 as well (they had two that year, and they took OLB Al Harris instead of Winslow). Imagine that offense with Montana, Winslow, and Payton for a decade. Also, the Bears weren't the only team that had people that liked Montana. The Packers had a scout named Red Cochrane who had a man crush on Joe. He scouted him every year that he was at Notre Dame, and he said that "All he does is win". However, Bart Starr had other ideas, and took a DL from Maryland in Round 3 that didn't make it. Cochrane was furious. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nabbs4u Posted July 13 Share Posted July 13 (edited) 1990 League MVP Randall Cunningham not tearing his ACL week 1 of the 1991 season. Not saying they'd beat the 91' Redskins in a potential NFCCG matchup if that played out....but it sure would of been fun to watch unfold given that years 91' Eagles Defense. https://www.bleedinggreennation.com/2020/5/13/21256799/eagles-randall-cunningham-never-got-hurt-in-1991-what-if-quarterback-injury-season-philadelphia-nfl Edited July 13 by Nabbs4u 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7DnBrnc53 Posted July 13 Share Posted July 13 8 hours ago, Nabbs4u said: 1990 League MVP Randall Cunningham not tearing his ACL week 1 of the 1991 season. Not saying they'd beat the 91' Redskins in a potential NFCCG matchup if that played out....but it sure would of been fun to watch unfold given that years 91' Eagles Defense. https://www.bleedinggreennation.com/2020/5/13/21256799/eagles-randall-cunningham-never-got-hurt-in-1991-what-if-quarterback-injury-season-philadelphia-nfl What's ashame is that may have been their last chance at a Super Bowl with that crew. In the 1993 NFL Preview issue of SI, the author wrote about how Eagle owner Norman Braman wanted the team taken apart after their 92 playoff loss at Dallas because he didn't feel that they could compete with them as they were presently constructed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NVRamsFan Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 The Browns don't fire Belichick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Football_Bachelor08 Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 17 hours ago, Nabbs4u said: 1990 League MVP Randall Cunningham not tearing his ACL week 1 of the 1991 season. Not saying they'd beat the 91' Redskins in a potential NFCCG matchup if that played out....but it sure would of been fun to watch unfold given that years 91' Eagles Defense. https://www.bleedinggreennation.com/2020/5/13/21256799/eagles-randall-cunningham-never-got-hurt-in-1991-what-if-quarterback-injury-season-philadelphia-nfl Given they went 10-6 in a competitive NFC even without him, that's a very intriguing "What if" 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nabbs4u Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 31 minutes ago, Football_Bachelor08 said: Given they went 10-6 in a competitive NFC even without him, that's a very intriguing "What if" Defense alone was legit!!! Let alone 2-3 different QB!!! Just staying 🤷♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtmmike Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 Denver drafts Todd blackledge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightmare Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 On 7/5/2024 at 7:42 AM, adamq said: The year is 2007. Al Davis decides, hey maybe we suck because there's nobody on offense besides checked out Randy Moss and.. Ronald Curry. These QBs are all awful anyway, so let's take this kid Calvin Johnson 1st overall and see what Culpepper can do. They still would have been a trainwreck, of course, BUT now, with the 4th pick in the 2007 draft, the Oakland Rrrraiders select.. Joe Flacco Good one. At the time most Raiders fans wanted Calvin as well, as did Lane Kiffin. Al Davis knew best, though… 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7DnBrnc53 Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 20 hours ago, NVRamsFan said: The Browns don't fire Belichick. And the Browns-Ravens don't have as much success, more than likely, because Belichick (and maybe Michael Lombardi) would have been in the way of Ozzie Newsome's draft day brilliance. Also, it may mean that the Packers of the late-90's are even better, because they end up with Ray Lewis (Ron Wolf wanted Lewis bad, and was so close to taking him before the Ravens drafted him). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Football_Bachelor08 Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 15 hours ago, Nightmare said: Good one. At the time most Raiders fans wanted Calvin as well, as did Lane Kiffin. Al Davis knew best, though… In the 2000s, Davis was drafting like it was still the '70s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7DnBrnc53 Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 (edited) 13 hours ago, Football_Bachelor08 said: In the 2000s, Davis was drafting like it was still the '70s. Sounds like what Elway's FO and the Walmart Generals (artist formerly known as the Denver Broncos) do today. They are stuck in the 90's. Edited July 15 by 7DnBrnc53 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4L Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 On 7/8/2024 at 11:43 AM, BroncoSojia said: The Ravens weren't going to draft another Cal Tedford QB right after Boller. Plus, rodgers needed to sit. I don't think he would have been as successful had he not gotten at least a year on the bench. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatJerkDave Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 On 7/15/2024 at 2:58 PM, N4L said: Plus, rodgers needed to sit. I don't think he would have been as successful had he not gotten at least a year on the bench. He wasn't great in preseason or the limited regular season snaps he had until probably preseason 07. But part of that may have been whatever voodoo ritual Tom Clemens does for the Packers. Jordan Love didn't look so hot until mop-up duty in a blowout loss against the Saints in 2021. In their first seasons, neither looked like an NFL QB. Rodgers had that whacky hold the ball at his earhole thing, and Love looked like he was only using his arm to throw everything. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatJerkDave Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 On 7/14/2024 at 4:03 PM, 7DnBrnc53 said: And the Browns-Ravens don't have as much success, more than likely, because Belichick (and maybe Michael Lombardi) would have been in the way of Ozzie Newsome's draft day brilliance. Also, it may mean that the Packers of the late-90's are even better, because they end up with Ray Lewis (Ron Wolf wanted Lewis bad, and was so close to taking him before the Ravens drafted him). I take everything from Ron Wolf with a huge grain of salt. He built a winner. He got Reggie White, which was monumental. And he believed in Brett Favre, and Brett Favre worked out, despite showing no signs of lasting long in the league when he was traded for. Wolf has a lot of moves that he would have made, or players he wishes he picked with years of hindsight. And what do you know? He picked all the All-pros! Except, this is the guy that picked Vonnie Holliday over Randy Moss, a player who would menace the Packers for years, when his WRs in 1998 were: Antonio Freeman, Robert Brooks (who hadn't completed a full season since 1995, and never did again), Bill Schroeder, Derrick Mays, Corey Bradford, Russell Copeland, and Roell Preston. Moss being in the division led Wolf to panic and select 3 defensive backs with his first three picks in 1999, only Mike McKenzie was worth anything. Took Bubba Franks at 14th overall in 2000. Then, even though Mike Sherman had the GM title, Wolf was still there helping, allowed Sherman to trade up to 10 for Jamaal Reynolds in 2001. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngusMcFife Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 On 7/14/2024 at 4:03 PM, 7DnBrnc53 said: And the Browns-Ravens don't have as much success, more than likely, because Belichick (and maybe Michael Lombardi) would have been in the way of Ozzie Newsome's draft day brilliance. Either that or Ozzie and Belichick form an unbeatable alliance of draft acumen and coaching genius and win 10 Super Bowls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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