Worm Guts Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 1 hour ago, Cearbhall said: Trust what you want. I have paid attention for years and observed this pattern. Not sure why you think this takes insider knowledge. Agents for players that are going to be tagged routinely use the values of the tag plus the 120% value it costs the team to tag the player again as a starting point for how much guaranteed money that player should get on a long term contract. It absolutely is in a players best interest to get as much guaranteed money as possible. The agent starting negotiations anything less than that on a tagged player would not be acting in the players best interest. Is there a comparably situation to Case? I don’t think there is. If Case wants a long term deal it’s going to be less than the franchise tag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cearbhall Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 24 minutes ago, Worm Guts said: Is there a comparably situation to Case? I don’t think there is. If Case wants a long term deal it’s going to be less than the franchise tag. Nope. No great comparable situations. My speculation is that he'll be a lot more flexible in terms of compromising with the team than many other tagged players tend to be. If the team and Case Keenum are interested in a long term deal the best chance for that is probably before the tag is applied while the $23M guaranteed is still uncertain. Once the tag is applied the agent will negotiate based on tag parameters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Worm Guts Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 It’s an emotional response to this game, but right now I’d prefer to just give Teddy a cheap contract than to give Case a long term contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heimdallr Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 For me there are two options: 1. You still believe in Teddy, and re-sign him to be the starter. Doesn't need to be a huge contract, but if you choose Teddy, then Keenum/Bradford aren't going to re-sign here. 2. You don't believe in Teddy, and let him go. What this means is that you need to draft a new QBOTF. You also need to sign Keenum/Bradford/Brees/whoever to a 1-2 year deal to play until the rookie is ready, but in any case you need to draft a guy for the future. Personally I don't believe in Teddy at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Worm Guts Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 4 minutes ago, Heimdallr said: For me there are two options: 1. You still believe in Teddy, and re-sign him to be the starter. Doesn't need to be a huge contract, but if you choose Teddy, then Keenum/Bradford aren't going to re-sign here. 2. You don't believe in Teddy, and let him go. What this means is that you need to draft a new QBOTF. You also need to sign Keenum/Bradford/Brees/whoever to a 1-2 year deal to play until the rookie is ready, but in any case you need to draft a guy for the future. Personally I don't believe in Teddy at all. Right now I don’t believe in anyone and Teddy will be the cheapest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SemperFeist Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 Bridgewater, Sloter, rookie The Vikings started building a team the right way in 2014, they were grooming and developing young players the right way. It all got thrown sideways when Bridgewater went down, but now that he’s healthy, it’s time to continue with the original plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heimdallr Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 Just now, Worm Guts said: Right now I don’t believe in anyone and Teddy will be the cheapest. Teddy+Rookie is a decent option. If it is a 1-year deal, it really doesn't matter how much it costs though. A franchise tag on Keenum is still a very good option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 They better sign Bridgewater. Case needs to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SemperFeist Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 Just now, Heimdallr said: Keenum is still a very good option. Very much disagree. It’s a waste of cap space that can be used to either re-sign a better player, or use on a free agent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freakout Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 Cousins. Team is still too good to wait 3-4 years on a rookie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heimdallr Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 Just now, SemperFeist said: Very much disagree. It’s a waste of cap space that can be used to either re-sign a better player, or use on a free agent. We will have plenty of cap space to re-sign players, and I don't believe we would sign any big money free agents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SemperFeist Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 Just now, Heimdallr said: We will have plenty of cap space to re-sign players, and I don't believe we would sign any big money free agents. Barr, Kendricks, and Diggs are going to take up a big chunk of cap space. Spending $23M on a QB who’s not worth half that is just bad business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 2 minutes ago, Freakout said: Cousins. Team is still too good to wait 3-4 years on a rookie. Umm...No! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
footlunder Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 10 minutes ago, Virginia Viking said: They better sign Bridgewater. Case needs to go. Is Zimmer bringing teddy along slowly? How has his progress been going? Was really pulling for you tonight. Your team is special. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freakout Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 4 minutes ago, Virginia Viking said: Umm...No! Any other option? Bradford is done, Keenum is just another Brian Hoyer, and Teddy was a 14/9 quarterback before blowing out his knee. The quarterback position on this team has been a non stop cycle going back to Culpepper blowing out his knee. It isn't going to stop until they actually sign a good starter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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