Rodjahs12 Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 Can I ask why you have Hubbard over Landry @AlexGreen#20? I’m not the biggest Landry fan either but have grown to accept him as a likely pick at 14. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexGreen#20 Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 Just now, Rodjahs12 said: Can I ask why you have Hubbard over Landry @AlexGreen#20? I’m not the biggest Landry fan either but have grown to accept him as a likely pick at 14. Don't have Hubbard over Landry. Just haven't done a report on him yet. Those aren't my 20 top prospects, just the first 20 that I've done. I fully expect Landry to be my #2 Edge guy when I get around to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodjahs12 Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 Just now, AlexGreen#20 said: Don't have Hubbard over Landry. Just haven't done a report on him yet. Those aren't my 20 top prospects, just the first 20 that I've done. I fully expect Landry to be my #2 Edge guy when I get around to him. Ahh my bad on that. Was surprised to not see him included but I know a few guys on this board who are very low on him so thought I’d ask. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodjahs12 Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 The more Courtland Sutton I watch, the more Mohammad Sanu with more athletic ability I see. Mushin Muhammad comes to mind and his toughness even reminds me of David Boston. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leader Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 1 hour ago, CWood21 said: I'm going to have to disagree. I mentioned it the other day, but my CB tiers right now look like: Denzel Ward (Mini Tier) Joshua Jackson (Tier) Isaiah Oliver Mike Hughes Carlton Davis Jaire Alexander (Tier) Holton Hill Quenton Meeks Deonte Jackson Good info - thanks - but can I get a clarification of terms so I've got the context right? Whats the "tier" designation denote? And are these guys listed in your assessment of talent? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodjahs12 Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 1 hour ago, CWood21 said: I'm going to have to disagree. I mentioned it the other day, but my CB tiers right now look like: Denzel Ward (Mini Tier) Joshua Jackson (Tier) Isaiah Oliver Mike Hughes Carlton Davis Jaire Alexander (Tier) Holton Hill Quenton Meeks Deonte Jackson Fair enough. Seems to be more parity in opinions on corners this year than in year’s past. Fun class to watch. mine would look like Denzel Ward (tier) Jaire Alexander (mini tier) Carlton Davis Isaiah Oliver Mike Hughes (tier) Donte Jackson Josh Jackson Quenton Meeks MJ Stewart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packerraymond Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 2 minutes ago, Leader said: Good info - thanks - but can I get a clarification of terms so I've got the context right? Whats the "tier" designation denote? And are these guys listed in your assessment of talent? Most NFL teams draft on a tier system. A tier is essentially a bunching of similarly graded players. In my opinion the whole "BPA" thing revolves around drafting the best player at a position of need in your highest tier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWood21 Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 6 minutes ago, Leader said: Good info - thanks - but can I get a clarification of terms so I've got the context right? Whats the "tier" designation denote? And are these guys listed in your assessment of talent? The only reason I'd use the "tier" term is to differentiate the levels of the players. For me, there's a clear difference between say Joshua Jackson and Isaiah Oliver, but not a huge difference between Oliver and Mike Hughes. I prefer grades in tiers rather than sequential since you're normally talking about a small difference between two players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leader Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 What would we have to do to get Edmunds? Bypass CB and true EDGE at 14 (?) and probably trade up? I'd love to get him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWood21 Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 3 minutes ago, Rodjahs12 said: Fair enough. Seems to be more parity in opinions on corners this year than in year’s past. Fun class to watch. I can't speak for others, but last year's CB class was unusually strong. I had four corners with 1st round grades, and four more with 2nd round grades. If I were to break down the CB since 2015, it'd probably looking something like this: Jalen Ramsey Marshon Lattimore (Mini Tier) Denzel Ward (Mini Tier) Joshua Jackson Marlon Humphrey Gareon Conley Vernon Hargreaves III William Jackson III Trae Waynes Marcus Peters(Tier)Isaiah OliverMike HughesCarlton DavisJaire Alexander Akhello Witherspoon Chidobe Awuzie Adoree' Jackson Tre'Davious White Mackensie Alexander Kevin Johnson PJ Williams Jalen Collins Byron Jones That's not in any particular order, but the sort of tiers I'd break them down into. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leader Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 7 minutes ago, CWood21 said: The only reason I'd use the "tier" term is to differentiate the levels of the players. For me, there's a clear difference between say Joshua Jackson and Isaiah Oliver, but not a huge difference between Oliver and Mike Hughes. I prefer grades in tiers rather than sequential since you're normally talking about a small difference between two players. And Ward is slightly above Jackson? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWood21 Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 7 minutes ago, Leader said: What would we have to do to get Edmunds? Bypass CB and true EDGE at 14 (?) and probably trade up? I'd love to get him. Board would have to be obliterated. I'd assume that Denzel Ward, Joshua Jackson, Marcus Davenport, Derwin James, and Harold Landry would have to be off the board. Add in 4 QBs ahead of our pick, Saquon Barkley, and Bradley Chubb and that's 11 players right there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packerraymond Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 Will be interested to get your thoughts on Landry, Vander Esch, Bates, Oliver, DaeSean Hamilton, Gallup and Corbett @AlexGreen#20 some of my draft favorites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexGreen#20 Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 2 minutes ago, CWood21 said: I can't speak for others, but last year's CB class was unusually strong. I had four corners with 1st round grades, and four more with 2nd round grades. If I were to break down the CB since 2015, it'd probably looking something like this: Jalen Ramsey Marshon Lattimore (Mini Tier) Denzel Ward (Mini Tier) Joshua Jackson Marlon Humphrey Gareon Conley Vernon Hargreaves III William Jackson III Trae Waynes Marcus Peters(Tier)Isaiah OliverMike HughesCarlton DavisJaire Alexander Akhello Witherspoon Chidobe Awuzie Adoree' Jackson Tre'Davious White Mackensie Alexander Kevin Johnson PJ Williams Jalen Collins Byron Jones That's not in any particular order, but the sort of tiers I'd break them down into. Is that taking Peter's off the field issues into account? You're down on the LSU boys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWood21 Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 3 minutes ago, Leader said: And Ward is slightly above Jackson? Yes. He doesn't quite grade out in that "elite" tier for me, but he's clearly above the rest of that next bunch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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