AlexGreen#20 Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 3 minutes ago, packerrfan74 said: I know speculation is that TT will be gone in the next year or two anyways. But if we come out of our best draft position in a decade with less than 2 guys that can contribute from day one, I will be upset and will be pounding the table for TT to get out. Same way we have to capitalize on advancing in the playoffs, we have to approach the draft the same way. We need immediate production from our early rounders this year. No cute projects. I just don't know how realistic of an expectation that is without trading back into the first round or having an injury derail a productive starter. Let's say you don't cut people. . . If your first pick is an OLB, that's probably one guy who at least sees snaps. What are the other spots a guy would see real reps? CB if you don't resign House or you have injuries, but that's a crapshoot on the number of reps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheesehawk Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 3 minutes ago, AlexGreen#20 said: I just don't know how realistic of an expectation that is without trading back into the first round or having an injury derail a productive starter. Let's say you don't cut people. . . If your first pick is an OLB, that's probably one guy who at least sees snaps. What are the other spots a guy would see real reps? CB if you don't resign House or you have injuries, but that's a crapshoot on the number of reps. CB, WR, TE (not in the 1st or 2nd), DE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWood21 Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 21 minutes ago, Dubz41 said: a more likely scenario is that Key falls to us because of the off field baggage. Absolutely. Far more likely we're looking at Harold Landry or Arden Key than we are of being in range of selecting Bradley Chubb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWood21 Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 8 minutes ago, AlexGreen#20 said: I just don't know how realistic of an expectation that is without trading back into the first round or having an injury derail a productive starter. Let's say you don't cut people. . . If your first pick is an OLB, that's probably one guy who at least sees snaps. What are the other spots a guy would see real reps? CB if you don't resign House or you have injuries, but that's a crapshoot on the number of reps. Right now, we've got enough moving parts it's probably not glaringly obvious. I think a TE could play Year 1, although the history of production out of TEs in their first year is underwhelming. Depending on what happens with Cobb/Nelson, a rookie WR could play a sizeable role. I think RG is a position that a rookie could step in and play right away. Defensively, I think a DL could get reps but probably not much. OLB like you mentioned. Depending on what the Packers do with Burnett and Jones, a rookie ILB could play next to Blake Martinez. Likewise, a rookie S could play as well. Until the Packers re-sign Davon House or sign another veteran corner, CB could be had for PT by a rookie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexGreen#20 Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 4 minutes ago, packerrfan74 said: CB, WR, TE (not in the 1st or 2nd), DE Possible, I just don't think you're likely to get more than one, Day 1 starter out of this draft class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheesehawk Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 1 minute ago, AlexGreen#20 said: Possible, I just don't think you're likely to get more than one, Day 1 starter out of this draft class. I'll take one over none any day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cakeshoppe Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 6 minutes ago, AlexGreen#20 said: Possible, I just don't think you're likely to get more than one, Day 1 starter out of this draft class. Given our history, I suspect we do but wish we didn't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanedorf Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 6 minutes ago, Cakeshoppe said: Given our history, I suspect we do but wish we didn't This goes both ways...if you're a crappy team with a lousy roster - its a easier to find day 1 starters. When you're a talented team with a decent roster, its harder to crack the lineup as a rookie and that's not always a bad thing I'll also note that not even CMIII was a Day 1 starter, he worked his way into the lineup after a few games I also think AG20 is commenting on the "quality" of this draft as much as GB's prowess in finding talented guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packerraymond Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 30 minutes ago, AlexGreen#20 said: I just don't know how realistic of an expectation that is without trading back into the first round or having an injury derail a productive starter. Let's say you don't cut people. . . If your first pick is an OLB, that's probably one guy who at least sees snaps. What are the other spots a guy would see real reps? CB if you don't resign House or you have injuries, but that's a crapshoot on the number of reps. If Chubb/Key/Landry/Clemson guys can't beat out Fackrell and Biegel we've got a real serious problem on our hands. Unless we go out and sign a top OLB FA I don't see this at all. Clay obviously needs a decrease in snaps, Brooks is a FA and Fackrell and Biegel we're invisible, who are you giving these snaps to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexGreen#20 Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 1 minute ago, Packerraymond said: If Chubb/Key/Landry/Clemson guys can't beat out Fackrell and Biegel we've got a real serious problem on our hands. Unless we go out and sign a top OLB FA I don't see this at all. Clay obviously needs a decrease in snaps, Brooks is a FA and Fackrell and Biegel we're invisible, who are you giving these snaps to? Dude, the second line of the post literally says, "If your first pick is an OLB, that's probably one guy who at least sees snaps" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cakeshoppe Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 3 minutes ago, Shanedorf said: This goes both ways...if you're a crappy team with a lousy roster - its a easier to find day 1 starters. When you're a talented team with a decent roster, its harder to crack the lineup as a rookie and that's not always a bad thing I'll also note that not even CMIII was a Day 1 starter, he worked his way into the lineup after a few games I also think AG20 is commenting on the "quality" of this draft as much as GB's prowess in finding talented guys Right, I'm not disagreeing with any assessment of the talent of our roster or the draft class, I'm just saying I Wouldn't put down money that something(Injury, suspension, etc.) won't come up over the offseason/TC that will end up with an open slot at TE, WR, CB, or LB that we aren't looking at at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packerraymond Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 1 hour ago, AlexGreen#20 said: Dude, the second line of the post literally says, "If your first pick is an OLB, that's probably one guy who at least sees snaps" I read it "sees the least snaps," apologies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 16 minutes ago, Packerraymond said: I read it "sees the least snaps," apologies. Not gonna lie, so did I. When I read his reply, I'm like okay, I do not understand this at all. lol We can't read Ray. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacReady Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 1 hour ago, CWood21 said: Admittedly, I haven't really dug into the safeties yet but is there really an impact safety? I mean, you've got Minkah Fitzpatrick (not sure where I fall on the is he a CB or S discussion) and Derwin James (up and down year), but I'm not sure what's behind that. Ah, nevermind then. I thought Fitzpatrick was supposed to be like Adams/Hooker level hype. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWood21 Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 Just now, HorizontoZenith said: Ah, nevermind then. I thought Fitzpatrick was supposed to be like Adams/Hooker level hype. If he's that level of S prospect, he's going inside the top 10 pretty easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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