the lone star Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 Is Tanking Explicitly Against The Rules? If so, does anybody have the exact rule that prohibits it? If not, then do you think there should be one (i.e. would such a rule be necessary)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimbaWho Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/report-nba-approves-draft-lottery-reform-to-prevent-tanking-and-player-resting-rules/ These are the new rules that'll go into affect 2019. Basically gives the same odds to the top three teams instead of favoring the worst team overall. Also, give Adam Silver the power to fine teams that are resting healthy players, and teams are encouraged to rest players at home and not rest players during prime time events. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seminoles1 Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 There is no rule because you can manipulate too easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the lone star Posted February 17, 2018 Author Share Posted February 17, 2018 2 hours ago, seminoles1 said: There is no rule because you can manipulate too easily. It would be hard to prove tanking for sure. Can always justify it somehow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the lone star Posted February 17, 2018 Author Share Posted February 17, 2018 7 hours ago, SimbaWho said: https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/report-nba-approves-draft-lottery-reform-to-prevent-tanking-and-player-resting-rules/ These are the new rules that'll go into affect 2019. Basically gives the same odds to the top three teams instead of favoring the worst team overall. Also, give Adam Silver the power to fine teams that are resting healthy players, and teams are encouraged to rest players at home and not rest players during prime time events. Yeah, I heard about that when they first broke news about it. I kinda like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the lone star Posted February 17, 2018 Author Share Posted February 17, 2018 If there is a rule, then it's probably just a general one, where teams cannot engage in conduct that the commissioner and the NBA find detrimental to the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the lone star Posted February 17, 2018 Author Share Posted February 17, 2018 I also wonder if the NBA would ever find conduct so egregious that they would revoke a team's first round pick or just push them further down in the draft? I'd be interested in seeing that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyMossIsBoss Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 No, just ways to dissuade it (like changing the lottery). PMT brought up a genius tanking idea, and if any team ever attempted it, then we may seem some bizarre anti-tank rules. The only real downside of tanking is losing fan interest, even if only temporary, an owner's first goal is to make money, win second. However, this idea makes your team lose and make money. The idea was that a team that wants to tank should just sign the PMT guys (or just think any popular figure) and play them, you would probably put more fans in the stadium than you would even if you were contending. I don't think the interest would ever wear off as you could cycle through people to put out there, but at the cost the NBA would become somewhat of a circus, which is why it would get shut down early if any team ever did it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the lone star Posted February 20, 2018 Author Share Posted February 20, 2018 That's interesting. If I were an owner though, I probably wouldn't go that route. I'd do what the Mavs are doing. Get guys that have fallen through the cracks, try to coach them up, but then just make sure you lose the game in the 4th quarter, lol. Stuff like that should be against the rules though, although it's tough to prove. But I see it as a legitimate strategy in the absence of any rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuskieTitan Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/22532215/mark-cuban-dallas-mavericks-owner-fined-600000-tanking-comments Quote Dallas Mavericks owner Mark Cuban has been fined $600,000 by the NBA for saying his team should tank this season. Cuban called tanking "brutal" but acknowledged that he told his team that it would be best to lose for the rest of the 2017-18 season. Commissioner Adam Silver said in a statement that the fine was for "for public statements detrimental to the NBA." Tanking might not be explicitly against the rules, but saying you are tanking seems like it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RavensfanRD Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 The fact that teams do this is pathetic. AND, the fact that grown *** men go along with that notion is even more pathetic. Take your *** whoopings like a man and do better. Don't just give up on the year especially if you want me to buy a $50 hamburger and beer at your games. And to think I wanted Mark Cuban to finesse Peter Angelos out of the Orioles. PASS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the lone star Posted February 23, 2018 Author Share Posted February 23, 2018 On 2/21/2018 at 4:14 PM, RuskieTitan said: http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/22532215/mark-cuban-dallas-mavericks-owner-fined-600000-tanking-comments Tanking might not be explicitly against the rules, but saying you are tanking seems like it is. Cuban says a lot. He has always struck me as a guy who makes stuff up. So ionno if he did tell them or not. Probably did, but he has a tendency for dramatizing and overplaying things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
champ11 Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 On 2/22/2018 at 12:51 AM, RavensfanRD said: The fact that teams do this is pathetic. AND, the fact that grown *** men go along with that notion is even more pathetic. Take your *** whoopings like a man and do better. Don't just give up on the year especially if you want me to buy a $50 hamburger and beer at your games. And to think I wanted Mark Cuban to finesse Peter Angelos out of the Orioles. PASS So you think the players and coaches purposely lose? Because nah, it's a front office decision. Love the heat of the take though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MookieMonstah Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 7 hours ago, champ11 said: So you think the players and coaches purposely lose? Because nah, it's a front office decision. Love the heat of the take though Yep. No coach is going to risk job security by losing games on purpose and NBA players are to competitive to just lose on purpose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RavensfanRD Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 10 hours ago, champ11 said: So you think the players and coaches purposely lose? Because nah, it's a front office decision. Love the heat of the take though Doesn't matter who decision it is, the players still gotta go through with it. And thanks! I'm sick of the crybaby generation this world has become. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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