seminoles1 Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 I still like Hurns for you guys. He would have been plenty productive had he stayed healthy the last 2 years. If he gets hurt again this year then cut your losses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VLoo Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 What on Earth is this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhanYouDigIt Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 2 minutes ago, VLoo said: What on Earth is this It’s a prove it deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VLoo Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 52 minutes ago, KhanYouDigIt said: It’s a prove it deal. I suppose. It seems pretty high at first blush. I think that's nearly on par with what Jeffrey got on his 1 year deal and Moncrief has not done what he had up to that point in his career. The way you've seen us spend money this year, I obviously can't say for sure, but it just feels like Robinson didn't want to come back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhanYouDigIt Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 2 minutes ago, VLoo said: I suppose. It seems pretty high at first blush. I think that's nearly on par with what Jeffrey got on his 1 year deal and Moncrief has not done what he had up to that point in his career. The way you've seen us spend money this year, I obviously can't say for sure, but it just feels like Robinson didn't want to come back. The WR’s in FA this year got PAID. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaguarCrazy2832 Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 1 hour ago, KhanYouDigIt said: The WR’s in FA this year got PAID. And yet Safeties cant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Buzz Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 3 hours ago, VLoo said: I suppose. It seems pretty high at first blush. I think that's nearly on par with what Jeffrey got on his 1 year deal and Moncrief has not done what he had up to that point in his career. The way you've seen us spend money this year, I obviously can't say for sure, but it just feels like Robinson didn't want to come back. It's definitely too much per year for him, but on a 1 year deal unless it hampers what we can do elsewhere it really doesn't really matter. Doesn't seem as if it did based on everything we did. We can cut Nortman and either restructure/trade/cut Hurns and we're fine (which hurts as he's a fan favorite for what he's done). If Moncrief stays healthy (big If), than I'm not sure it really is that crazy. If he doesn't, than he's gone after this year and we find someone else and it doesn't impact us at all financially. One year deals are really hard for me to get too up in arms about, even if it's too much for a player. Moncrief has some decent sized upside as long as he can stay on the field. WR's got paid as @KhanYouDigIt said and we needed a veteran with upside to be a focal point on offense. I think Moncrief has a chance to be relatively close, a lot closer than anyone not named Watkins/ARob. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tugboat Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 11 hours ago, .Buzz said: It's definitely too much per year for him, but on a 1 year deal unless it hampers what we can do elsewhere it really doesn't really matter. Doesn't seem as if it did based on everything we did. We can cut Nortman and either restructure/trade/cut Hurns and we're fine (which hurts as he's a fan favorite for what he's done). If Moncrief stays healthy (big If), than I'm not sure it really is that crazy. If he doesn't, than he's gone after this year and we find someone else and it doesn't impact us at all financially. One year deals are really hard for me to get too up in arms about, even if it's too much for a player. Moncrief has some decent sized upside as long as he can stay on the field. WR's got paid as @KhanYouDigIt said and we needed a veteran with upside to be a focal point on offense. I think Moncrief has a chance to be relatively close, a lot closer than anyone not named Watkins/ARob. Then what in all **** was wrong with giving a potentially ELITE receiver like Allen Robinson the money...on a one year Franchise Tag deal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaguarCrazy2832 Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 18 hours ago, KhanYouDigIt said: It’s a prove it deal. Damn i wish i got a prove it deal... Prove it deals are for guys who have proven to be good and either have character or injury concerns...Moncrief just has injury concerns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tugboat Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 1 hour ago, JaguarCrazy2832 said: Damn i wish i got a prove it deal... Prove it deals are for guys who have proven to be good and either have character or injury concerns...Moncrief just has injury concerns I'd take one too. If anyone is curious, or just handing them out or whatever. I have almost identical measurables to Marcus Peters. I bet i'm not as bad as i think i am as a depth corner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Buzz Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 5 hours ago, Tugboat said: Then what in all **** was wrong with giving a potentially ELITE receiver like Allen Robinson the money...on a one year Franchise Tag deal? They don't believe that/don't like paying someone coming off an ACL/bad blood between both sides (which TC's quote made it sound like ARob had little interest in returning). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Buzz Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 This signing was a Tony Khan signing. Apparently he loved this guy coming out of college. Analytically, he tested as one of the best ever at the combine according to Lageman on Jaguars Thursday. Just got to watching it today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaguarCrazy2832 Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 5 hours ago, .Buzz said: This signing was a Tony Khan signing. Apparently he loved this guy coming out of college. Analytically, he tested as one of the best ever at the combine according to Lageman on Jaguars Thursday. Just got to watching it today. Thats great and all but in 4 years he basically did what Arob did in 2... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Buzz Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 3 hours ago, JaguarCrazy2832 said: Thats great and all but in 4 years he basically did what Arob did in 2... Aaron got paid 14M per over 3 years. Moncrief got a one year deal to prove he can stay healthy. Big difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedyg Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 9 hours ago, .Buzz said: This signing was a Tony Khan signing. Apparently he loved this guy coming out of college. Analytically, he tested as one of the best ever at the combine according to Lageman on Jaguars Thursday. Just got to watching it today. It's good that we have a young owner invested in the team, but I out zero value in Khan. I'm sure he's a smart guy, and maybe some of his other analysis resulted in great success, but the high profile ones that they boasted about? Gabbert qb rating when given time = Joeckel Goal line carries for TD = Yeldon Best in coverage = Sample Those are some pretty bad ones, and they were very public about them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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