Jag68Sid87 Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 Enough with the pet-project-type quarterbacks. We need to draft someone with at least some semblance of a college resume. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsandI Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 3 hours ago, Jag68Sid87 said: Enough with the pet-project-type quarterbacks. We need to draft someone with at least some semblance of a college resume. Logan Woodside in 6th round would do. heh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDotNova Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 On 12/11/2017 at 4:17 PM, JetsandI said: Allen in 1st is the same as Hackenberg in 2nd. Move on. Yup. We can't take a project QB who struggled at the college level. I will lose my mind if we take Allen. I'm even cautious with Darnold. Too close to Marky Mark. But I'll trust the scouts on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby816 Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 Rosen is the only QB in this draft that evens stands a shot at starting for the Jets Week 1 of 2018. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDotNova Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 A few non-QBs I like for the Jets. Sam Hubbard Edge, Jamie Alexander CB/PR, Duke Ejiofor DE/Edge, Wyatt Teller G, Tyrell Crosby OT. Cant wait to see what Macc does Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doumeyer Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 31 minutes ago, Bobby816 said: Rosen is the only QB in this draft that evens stands a shot at starting for the Jets Week 1 of 2018. Absolutely Rosen is the only one I am sure would start in his first season. I am not so sure about the rest, but who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdelaney89 Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 We aren't necessarily looking for a starter week 1, we just want to hit on a QB regardless of when he starts. I'd like to hope he can win the starting job but if we need to wait until week 8 to see him it doesn't really bother me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doumeyer Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 5 hours ago, rdelaney89 said: We aren't necessarily looking for a starter week 1, we just want to hit on a QB regardless of when he starts. I'd like to hope he can win the starting job but if we need to wait until week 8 to see him it doesn't really bother me I agree as long as we have a bonafide QB on the roster. there is no reason that we can't wait for whoever that player is to start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-Ro 25 Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 9 hours ago, rdelaney89 said: We aren't necessarily looking for a starter week 1, we just want to hit on a QB regardless of when he starts. I'd like to hope he can win the starting job but if we need to wait until week 8 to see him it doesn't really bother me Mayfield isn't a project QB in my opinion. He can come in and start day 1. Rosen as well. I think Darnold and Jackson would need some seasoning, thus would be cool if McCown was back to get us through September. No other QB is even worth talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby816 Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 34 minutes ago, K-Ro 25 said: Mayfield isn't a project QB in my opinion. He can come in and start day 1. Rosen as well. I think Darnold and Jackson would need some seasoning, thus would be cool if McCown was back to get us through September. No other QB is even worth talking about. OUs offense is the polar opposite of an NFL offense. That’s not saying he can’t grasp an nfl offense. It’s just saying he’s not seasoned to do so. That’s what makes finding and grading these college QBs so hard. The offenses they run in college are nothing like the nfl, so it’s hard to see who will and won’t grasp it. I like watching the Gruden camps, it gives good insight on how smart these guys are pre draft at reading defenses. For Mayfiekd and Jackson I think the biggest things will be learning to stay in the pocket. Huge adjustment. To not just run when things break down. Step up in the pocket, throw the ball away or take a sack is a good play in the nfl sometimes. And that’s not those 2 guys instincts. That takes time to adjust. Darnold I think needs to adjust from a turnover standpoint. Way too many turnovers in college. He does play in a more nfl style offense though, which imo makes him more nfl ready than Mayfield or Jackson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdelaney89 Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 1 hour ago, K-Ro 25 said: Mayfield isn't a project QB in my opinion. He can come in and start day 1. Rosen as well. I think Darnold and Jackson would need some seasoning, thus would be cool if McCown was back to get us through September. No other QB is even worth talking about. I think Darnold on the Browns, Rosen on the Giants and Mayfield on the Jets would all start right away but I wouldn't mind if we needed to wait until halfway through the season either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdelaney89 Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 53 minutes ago, Bobby816 said: OUs offense is the polar opposite of an NFL offense. That’s not saying he can’t grasp an nfl offense. It’s just saying he’s not seasoned to do so. That’s what makes finding and grading these college QBs so hard. The offenses they run in college are nothing like the nfl, so it’s hard to see who will and won’t grasp it. I like watching the Gruden camps, it gives good insight on how smart these guys are pre draft at reading defenses. For Mayfiekd and Jackson I think the biggest things will be learning to stay in the pocket. Huge adjustment. To not just run when things break down. Step up in the pocket, throw the ball away or take a sack is a good play in the nfl sometimes. And that’s not those 2 guys instincts. That takes time to adjust. Darnold I think needs to adjust from a turnover standpoint. Way too many turnovers in college. He does play in a more nfl style offense though, which imo makes him more nfl ready than Mayfield or Jackson. Jackson will need to learn to play from the pocket more I think but Mayfield doesn't really depend on rushing yards. Carson Wentz ran the ball more his final 2 years in college than Baker has. Baker heavily relied on the run his first year at OU, not so much the last 2 years though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby816 Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 2 hours ago, rdelaney89 said: Jackson will need to learn to play from the pocket more I think but Mayfield doesn't really depend on rushing yards. Carson Wentz ran the ball more his final 2 years in college than Baker has. Baker heavily relied on the run his first year at OU, not so much the last 2 years though. Mayfield is no where near the runner Jackson is but creates a ton with his legs. Throwing a ton on the run and all. Eluding defenders. Things that you’re supposed to avoid in the NFL. Add a small stature and that’s why I don’t view him as a top talent. He will have to sit, learn and change his style of game in order to stand a chance succeeding and staying healthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KimuraGod Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 What I really don’t understand is that if we draft a qb who doesn’t run a ‘traditional’ nfl offense then could we not sprinkle in plays there are fimilar with alongside regular ‘nfl plays’? For example; Lamar Jackson is not a ‘traditional nfl qb’ okay well surely we can take what he can do and build a offensive gameplan around the great skills he has rather than making him into something he’s not. The phrase round hole square peg comes to mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdelaney89 Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 11 hours ago, Bobby816 said: Mayfield is no where near the runner Jackson is but creates a ton with his legs. Throwing a ton on the run and all. Eluding defenders. Things that you’re supposed to avoid in the NFL. Add a small stature and that’s why I don’t view him as a top talent. He will have to sit, learn and change his style of game in order to stand a chance succeeding and staying healthy. Mayfield - 6' 220 Wilson - 5' 11 215 Brees - 6' 209 There is no reason he can't succeed in the NFL at his height and weight. Brees doesn't take many shots but Wilson is shorter and lighter than Mayfield with one of the worst OL in all of football. He is arguably going to win the MVP . this year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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