oldman9er Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 __________________________________________________________________________________ 13. The Washington Redskins select : Vita Vea, DL, Washington 44. The Washington Redskins select : Frank Ragnow, IOL, Arkansas 109. The Washington Redskins select : Nyheim Hines, RB, N.C. State 142. The Washington Redskins select : DeShon Elliott, DB, Texas 163. The Washington Redskins select : Andrew Vollert, TE, Weber State 205. The Washington Redskins select : Justin Lawler, EDGE, Southern Methodist 231. The Washington Redskins select : Jonah Trinnaman, WR, Brigham Young 241. The Washington Redskins select : Beau Nunn, IOL, Appalachian State Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taylor made Posted April 21, 2018 Share Posted April 21, 2018 Nice draft - nice to see no unrealistic trades. Vea/Ragnow great players. Elliot great value. I don't see where Hines fits into the roster though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigdog44 Posted April 21, 2018 Share Posted April 21, 2018 I saw Mark Walton went a few spots after Hines. Rather Walton he’s a strong runner for his size, could even stand to add 10-15 pounds and the kid can make people miss. Injury cost him a couple rounds he’ll have something to prove too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldman9er Posted April 21, 2018 Author Share Posted April 21, 2018 12 hours ago, bigdog44 said: I saw Mark Walton went a few spots after Hines. Rather Walton he’s a strong runner for his size, could even stand to add 10-15 pounds and the kid can make people miss. Injury cost him a couple rounds he’ll have something to prove too Would be almost equally happy with Walton, tbh. 12 hours ago, taylor made said: Nice draft - nice to see no unrealistic trades. Vea/Ragnow great players. Elliot great value. I don't see where Hines fits into the roster though. This was my thinking that I just posted in the Mock Draft subforum here. I'm apparently out of "likes" for the day. Hines is exactly that... another Chris Thompson. Probably a more dangerous CT. I'd think that adding him would make the RBBC very useful. I don't see Gruden employing a bell-cow mentality to the run game, right? Hines would play all over the field and cause nightmarish mismatches (think: Tyreek Hill before he got some fine tuning as WR). The injuries piled up greatly for the Skins, as you well know. Losing CT to injury really took away a home-run element from the running game. Adding HInes makes sure that that doesn't happen again. Plus, CT will cost 4 mil against the cap in 2019. Adding Hines will effectively let Washington wave g'bye to CT and pocket 3 mil in cap space. Am I winning you over yet???? Let's get you in this car today! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PARROTHEAD Posted April 21, 2018 Share Posted April 21, 2018 I personally love the Hines pick. Especially after 108 picks, we can get someone of that talent at 109. Fantastic. Dont know why Walton is mentioned seeing as we already have Perine thats his style and every bit as slow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taylor made Posted April 21, 2018 Share Posted April 21, 2018 1 hour ago, oldman9er said: Am I winning you over yet???? Let's get you in this car today! Good point with CT costing that much against the Cap. It's not gonna hurt to add a RB, so instead of buying the car, I'll take the lease Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MKnight82 Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 9 hours ago, oldman9er said: Would be almost equally happy with Walton, tbh. This was my thinking that I just posted in the Mock Draft subforum here. I'm apparently out of "likes" for the day. Hines is exactly that... another Chris Thompson. Probably a more dangerous CT. I'd think that adding him would make the RBBC very useful. I don't see Gruden employing a bell-cow mentality to the run game, right? Hines would play all over the field and cause nightmarish mismatches (think: Tyreek Hill before he got some fine tuning as WR). The injuries piled up greatly for the Skins, as you well know. Losing CT to injury really took away a home-run element from the running game. Adding HInes makes sure that that doesn't happen again. Plus, CT will cost 4 mil against the cap in 2019. Adding Hines will effectively let Washington wave g'bye to CT and pocket 3 mil in cap space. Am I winning you over yet???? Let's get you in this car today! Gruden hasn’t really had the bellcow no, but he’s looking for a 1st down back I think. He wants a run first back that can get 4 yards up the middle. We tried that with Matt Jones and it didn’t work. Perine was meh, but he’s young. Honestly everyone wants us to draft a RB high but ignores some pretty important facts: 1. Before Chris Thompson got hurt last year he was a dominant back. 2. We just used a 4th rd pick on Perine last year, we’re giving up on him too already? 3. We don’t have a starting LG on the roster. 4. Our TEs suck at run blocking. #3 & 4 can kill any run game regardless of who we’re giving the ball to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldman9er Posted April 23, 2018 Author Share Posted April 23, 2018 On 4/21/2018 at 7:07 PM, MKnight82 said: Gruden hasn’t really had the bellcow no, but he’s looking for a 1st down back I think. He wants a run first back that can get 4 yards up the middle. We tried that with Matt Jones and it didn’t work. Perine was meh, but he’s young. Honestly everyone wants us to draft a RB high but ignores some pretty important facts: 1. Before Chris Thompson got hurt last year he was a dominant back. 2. We just used a 4th rd pick on Perine last year, we’re giving up on him too already? 3. We don’t have a starting LG on the roster. 4. Our TEs suck at run blocking. #3 & 4 can kill any run game regardless of who we’re giving the ball to. I hear this. Sounds like the injuries alone could have made it tough to gauge the effectiveness of those that could still play. Perine would still be the 5 carries per game, short yardage/goal-line hammer, in this scenario. And it's not as if any RB on the 2018 roster would be handed carries without first earning them. A healthy competition between CT, Perine, and rookie would determine who gets what. Adding Hines wouldn't be a complete middle finger to CT. Heck, the two could actually see time on the field together, with HInes or CT shifting out and around the formation for mismatches. If one of them gets injured, hey, you now still have a home-run type of RB in play. Could also make the decision to cut CT next year for a 3 mil cap gain more palatable. Vernon Davis didn't always suck at run blocking.. so whatever's going on there is fixable. I think the QB will help make the right adjustments to help in the run game. ( not a besmirching of the former QB; I can't judge that.. just saying, it's been said that Smith has strong pre-snap intangibles that assist good run games ) The Chiefs had some awful LG play during their strong run games, so just having a poor LG won't be a death-knell to the run game, I wouldn't expect. By and large, it's not too late to add a respectable LG to the roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 On 4/21/2018 at 8:07 PM, MKnight82 said: 3. We don’t have a starting LG on the roster. 4. Our TEs suck at run blocking. #3 & 4 can kill any run game regardless of who we’re giving the ball to. If only someone had been saying this all offseason! ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigdog44 Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 It’s also nice to see a mock that doesn’t include the Redskins drafting Callaway in the 5th. Starting to live with the possibility of Vea instead it Payne. My hand is hurting from slamming it on the table lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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