Buckrock101 Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 6 hours ago, NYRaider said: He hid in Asia his entire career as well and is strictly a grappler. He was fighting guys that had zero chance to beat him. Dude has 3 KO's in 53 fights in lower level organizations. Fighting in Asia doesn't mean you're hiding. And being a grappler doesn't mean you're a bad fighter. It's Mixed Martial Arts. You're not defined by how many fights you win by KO. Paul Daley has a higher % of KO wins than GSP, does that mean he's better? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 7 hours ago, Buckrock101 said: Fighting in Asia doesn't mean you're hiding. And being a grappler doesn't mean you're a bad fighter. It's Mixed Martial Arts. You're not defined by how many fights you win by KO. Paul Daley has a higher % of KO wins than GSP, does that mean he's better? Askren didn't want any smoke in the UFC for years, which is why he stayed in Asia. In both of his first two UFC fights he has taken an extremely high amount of damage against two older journeymen fighters, so it makes sense. Askren's a good wrestler but he's not UFC level. We've seen that in his last two fights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beekay414 Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 19 minutes ago, NYRaider said: Askren didn't want any smoke in the UFC for years, which is why he stayed in Asia. In both of his first two UFC fights he has taken an extremely high amount of damage against two older journeymen fighters, so it makes sense. Askren's a good wrestler but he's not UFC level. We've seen that in his last two fights. We haven't seen anything definitive. Using less than 5 minutes of fight time to judge a fighter would be like using 1 game to judge a basketball player. Give me a god damn break. Your ignorance is beyond ridiculous at this point. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaguarCrazy2832 Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 36 minutes ago, NYRaider said: Askren didn't want any smoke in the UFC for years, which is why he stayed in Asia. In both of his first two UFC fights he has taken an extremely high amount of damage against two older journeymen fighters, so it makes sense. Askren's a good wrestler but he's not UFC level. We've seen that in his last two fights. Who the hell throws this much shade at Robbie Lawler? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaguarCrazy2832 Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 Stoked to see Ryan Hall fight again Pena vs Montano should be good too as well as the last 3 fights Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 49 minutes ago, JaguarCrazy2832 said: Who the hell throws this much shade at Robbie Lawler? Lawler is 37 and has won 1 fight in the last 3 years... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 1 hour ago, beekay414 said: We haven't seen anything definitive. Using less than 5 minutes of fight time to judge a fighter would be like using 1 game to judge a basketball player. Give me a god damn break. Your ignorance is beyond ridiculous at this point. We saw him get bullied by Lawler before he caught a lucky choke and an early stoppage. And then we saw him get kneed into another dimension and baptized by street Jesus. The man is a bum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beekay414 Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 31 minutes ago, NYRaider said: We saw him get bullied by Lawler before he caught a lucky choke and an early stoppage. And then we saw him get kneed into another dimension and baptized by street Jesus. The man is a bum. Ignorance is bliss. You're continuing to prove, much like in the basketball forum, that you know nothing. Have a nice weekend, Bo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 5 minutes ago, beekay414 said: Ignorance is bliss. You're continuing to prove, much like in the basketball forum, that you know nothing. Have a nice weekend, Bo. Masvidal: "I hit him with the flying knee because he's a bum." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beekay414 Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 Yes, continue to prove my point. Now go derail something in the basketball forum. Nobody wants you derailing this thread. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonStark Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 19 hours ago, NYRaider said: What was wrong about it? Ben is cringe as hell and sounds like an absolute nerd. Why didn't he come to the UFC sooner? He ducked elite competition for years fighting against scrubs in One Championship. His last fight over there was against this guy: : And he came out of retirement to fight in the UFC because it was a cash grab. He pulled in $500k in his last two fights and I'm sure he believed he could leg hump his way to the belt in the UFC as well. Fighting Robbie Lawler isn't that impressive in 2019, he fought a 37-year-old that has won 1 fight in the last 3 years. Lawler slammed him on his head and was pounding him out before Askren caught that lucky choke. And as we saw in his last fight he's just not championship level in the UFC. Dude is a bum by UFC standards. You can't be serious. I'd do a little research if I were you before you say anything else on why Ben wasn't in the UFC sooner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beekay414 Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 I want to see Ryan Hall fight a legit contender soon. He's beaten Artem Lobov, Gray Maynard, BJ Penn and Darren Elkins so far but they are all just names at this point more so than legitimate fighters. I want to see him get a ranked guy next. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 1 hour ago, JonStark said: You can't be serious. I'd do a little research if I were you before you say anything else on why Ben wasn't in the UFC sooner. I understand that he had some beef with Dana White but he could've fought in the US if he really wanted too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beekay414 Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 22 minutes ago, NYRaider said: I understand that he had some beef with Dana White but he could've fought in the US if he really wanted too. Do you know anything about the contract situation when he left Bellator for ONE? Honest question. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 15 minutes ago, beekay414 said: Do you know anything about the contract situation when he left Bellator for ONE? Honest question. I know that he didn't want the UFC smoke. I know that you're a stan because he's from Wisconsin but he's just not UFC level. He flops around like a fish out of water and looks to just hold guys down until they're tired, that doesn't work at the highest level. Jorge Masvidal, a journeyman level fighter, embarrassed this man and probably ended his career within 5 seconds because he's so predictable and one dimensional. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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