chisoxguy7 Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 11 minutes ago, sammymvpknight said: I have a problem with tanking by not starting your best players. You’d be out of my league if someone tried to pull that strategy. Everyone probably feels a little differently on this. It's a complicated issue in a dynasty league where you have scarce running back talent, limited draft picks, and oftentimes little incentive for teams to trade with you (and most of the teams that want to will try to take advantage of you). It's a necessary evil in a free dynasty league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honolulu2786 Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 Call me crazy but I expect teams to play their best players on their rosters.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaguarCrazy2832 Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 12 hours ago, honolulu2786 said: Call me crazy but I expect teams to play their best players on their rosters.... Yea I agree but unless there is a penalty for not, i dont think people will care Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hockey5djh Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 (edited) 17 hours ago, chisoxguy7 said: I have no problem with tanking, as long as you are starting guys who are seeing reps on game day Not for nothing....if this is the case than I got a ton of crap over nothing last season. There needs to be a legit rule in place. EDIT: That happened in 2015. Edited November 29, 2017 by Hockey5djh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hockey5djh Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 16 hours ago, chisoxguy7 said: Everyone probably feels a little differently on this. It's a complicated issue in a dynasty league where you have scarce running back talent, limited draft picks, and oftentimes little incentive for teams to trade with you (and most of the teams that want to will try to take advantage of you). It's a necessary evil in a free dynasty league. Looks like you changed your tune since 2015 Quote Speaking of this... if we're actually going to allow blatant tanking like Hockey is doing, then I probably won't return next year. Take a look at that starting lineup/bench. http://www.footballsfuture.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=20144634#20144634 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hockey5djh Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 Here was @USMC_PackFans ruling back in 2015: Quote It goes without saying that tanking is a huge no go (especially in dynasty leagues). Now, you do bring up a good point that a specific penalty for a guilty offender has never been discussed. But that is because to be honest, I never expected something like that to happen with anyone in this league. So to be fair this time, I will go back and change the final scores of all of the match ups beginning from week 6 and leave it at that. From this point forward though, if any GM in this league is found guilty of tanking, that GM's 1st Round pick will be moved to the the end of the the draft. I Hope it never comes to that but, if it does, the penalty has now been laid out... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hockey5djh Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 (edited) In that instance I had started "not optimal" lineups from week 6-9. The result is that those lineups were changed to what they should have been and my record went from 0-9 to 1-8 so records were changed as a result. I think we should follow the precedent that was set. Edited November 29, 2017 by Hockey5djh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hockey5djh Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 Also I'm not sure how to divvy out punishments of moving draft picks with multiple teams starting players on byes.....that's a new precedent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisoxguy7 Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 Everyone’s opinion on a player is subjective, especially when you start to take matchups into account. If you start accusing people of not starting their “best players”, and punishing them for it, isn’t it kind of a monarchy then? I mean, if Cleveland is playing Tampa bay and I think that corey Coleman is a better start than Keenan Allen vs the eagles.... does that warrant punishing? Where is the line drawn? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisoxguy7 Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 4 hours ago, Hockey5djh said: Looks like you changed your tune since 2015 http://www.footballsfuture.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=20144634#20144634 You have a hell of a memory. My opinion has changed, and I apologize for the original hostility. The fantasy football scene has changed a lot in the past few years. I feel that the talent has become less top heavy and that there are more viable starters, which amplified the frustration of starting bye week players. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honolulu2786 Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 I think it's always up to the owner to pick the matchups he think is best regardless of projections. But if someone is starting Goodwin over Julio, that is an issue. I think if it's suspected that someone is skimming points by knowingly playing lesser talent, they should have to explain their reasoning for their starters to satisfy the commish and the league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammymvpknight Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 1 hour ago, honolulu2786 said: I think it's always up to the owner to pick the matchups he think is best regardless of projections. But if someone is starting Goodwin over Julio, that is an issue. I think if it's suspected that someone is skimming points by knowingly playing lesser talent, they should have to explain their reasoning for their starters to satisfy the commish and the league. Completely agreed. This isn’t rocket science. I drafted #12 this year and got Kamara, the #1 rookie and #2 overall RB this season. I also didn’t retain Thielen, the #4 WR this year. Just try to win and make the most of your picks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oregon Ducks Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 (edited) On 11/28/2017 at 2:45 PM, sammymvpknight said: I have a problem with tanking by not starting your best players. You’d be out of my league if someone tried to pull that strategy. They should definitely be punished. Edited November 29, 2017 by Oregon Ducks 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honolulu2786 Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 @chisoxguy7 as an example, your starters compared to your bench is one I would expect my commish to have some questions about. In a year where we will have one of the highest rated rookie RBs to come out in awhile... Just saying.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisoxguy7 Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 53 minutes ago, honolulu2786 said: @chisoxguy7 as an example, your starters compared to your bench is one I would expect my commish to have some questions about. In a year where we will have one of the highest rated rookie RBs to come out in awhile... Just saying.... Expected this from the only other team in contention for the #1 pick I don't believe in Hundley. Sure, Adams has had a few good weeks, but I surely didn't expect them. Rivers and the Chargers have been on fire. The Eagles pull Wentz when the game gets out of hand. One week where they score mostly rushing TDs and Wentz will put up 14 and get pulled. I like Rivers better at the moment. Darkwa: The giants suck and he's in a timeshare with Gallman. Crowder has done nothing all year for the most part. He's a desperation start. Shepard was supposed to be good once Benjamin left and Samuel went down. Hogan has been hurt and Collins is touchdown dependent right now and is also sharing looks. Hope you are appeased. By the way, I won last week and outscored 6 teams the week before. So get out of here with that nonsense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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