Sugashane Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 2 minutes ago, Starless said: Cool. I hope your workers strike and put you out of business. Laughable. They strike, don't get paid, and since they aren't overpaid like NFL players they likely don't have the security net. So their families suffer for it. Social justice warrior logic at its best. Great logic there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apparition Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 Just now, Sugashane said: Laughable. They strike, don't get paid, and since they aren't overpaid like NFL players they likely don't have the security net. So their families suffer for it. Social justice warrior logic at its best. Great logic there. It's called seizing the means of production, buddy. Look into it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugashane Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 Just now, Starless said: It's called seizing the means of production, buddy. Look into it. If you are someone with leverage, that might actually work. NFL players have short careers, you're out of your damn mind if you think you'd get players to risk millions of dollars to make zero difference. You'd be lucky to get 10 to walk out, they would be low profile guys who would be replaced, fined, and likely suspended. Then they get blackballed by the league like Kaep. Easy to say when your money isn't on the line though, right buddy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August4th Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 don't agree with the fins but this should not stop any player for fighting/bringing attention to any cause they believe in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CP3MVP Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 16 minutes ago, Starless said: He can. And that's the problem. If I were on that roster, I'd orchestrate a walkout. Screw this bs. Why is it a problem that he can do that? Free speech doesn’t apply to your place of employment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apparition Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 Just now, Sugashane said: If you are someone with leverage, that might actually work. NFL players have short careers, you're out of your damn mind if you think you'd get players to risk millions of dollars to make zero difference. You'd be lucky to get 10 to walk out, they would be low profile guys who would be replaced, fined, and likely suspended. Then they get blackballed by the league like Kaep. Easy to say when your money isn't on the line though, right buddy? Oh, I thought you were talking about that other guy's business. But yeah, the NFL is screwed. I do anticipate some kind of serious push-back against this kind of crap when the CBA is up but that won't be until, what, 2021? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apparition Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 Just now, CP3MVP said: Why is it a problem that he can do that? Free speech doesn’t apply to your place of employment ...If you don't see the problem in that, I won't explain it to you here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seminoles1 Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 If I were one of the captains I'd call a meeting with the players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malfatron Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 do suspended players count against the active roster? i wonder if the dolphins will use this to stash people Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apparition Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 Just now, Malfatron said: do suspended players count against the active roster? i wonder if the dolphins will use this to stash people Pretty sure that's super-duper illegal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugashane Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 6 minutes ago, Starless said: Oh, I thought you were talking about that other guy's business. But yeah, the NFL is screwed. I do anticipate some kind of serious push-back against this kind of crap when the CBA is up but that won't be until, what, 2021? Ah. I see the disconnect. I honestly wish they would compromise. If they want to do a moment of silence or whatever that's fine. I love that is is a peaceful protest, but the manner it was done in was sloppy IMO. Seemed like they were against the military first, which even after Kaep backtracked and stated his stance, he was screwed. First impressions, you know. If Kaep had been more open that he was speaking out against police brutality or not stuck his foot in his own mouth so much, he'd likely have been 100 times better off. The fact that the NFLPA and owners haven't had more talks on this together this offseason (even regardless of the CBA) seems like a lackadaisical effort from both sides to me. If anything one could really drive their agenda if the other side refused to meet. I still think Parrothead would hold the leverage in that scenario, barring high amounts of specialty in a certain roles. Most jobs can have people replaced within 2-3 weeks if need be, especially if anyone chooses to stay and promote up substantially. I definitely don't wish anyone financial or business woes unless they prove to be a horrendous person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malfatron Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 2 minutes ago, Starless said: 3 minutes ago, Malfatron said: do suspended players count against the active roster? i wonder if the dolphins will use this to stash people Pretty sure that's super-duper illegal. how would people know? just have the person they want to stash for a few games due to injury kneel that day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFlaccoSeagulls Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 Just now, Malfatron said: how would people know? just have the person they want to stash for a few games due to injury kneel that day. And how would that be different that purposefully putting guys on IR who are "injured" just to prevent them from signing with other teams? The Ravens do this every single year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malfatron Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 1 minute ago, Darth Pees said: And how would that be different that purposefully putting guys on IR who are "injured" just to prevent them from signing with other teams? The Ravens do this every single year. because, here they would only have to sit out "up to" 4 games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKTexans Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 The national anthem and American patriotism in general is about the only thing I'm envy of you guys. Find another peaceful way to protest without offending your military personnel would be my solution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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