Justin4 Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 Where do you rank LeBron James each year from his rookie season to last season? My opinion 03-04: Top 25-30 04-05: Top 10 05-06: Top 4 06-07: Top 5 07-08: Top 2 ( Behind Kobe) 08-09: 1 09-10: 1 10-11: 1 11-12: 1 12-13: 1 13-14: 1 14-15: 1 15-16: 1 16-17: 1 17-18: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sllim Pickens Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 I think you are overthinking things. He was probably top 5 his rookie year, and top 2 for a year or two and then the best player in the game since. He doubled his teams win total in his first year, he had them in the ECF by year 3. And those teams were trash without him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-ALL-DAY Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 3 minutes ago, Sllim Pickens said: I think you are overthinking things. He was probably top 5 his rookie year, and top 2 for a year or two and then the best player in the game since. He doubled his teams win total in his first year, he had them in the ECF by year 3. And those teams were trash without him. LeBron was not a top 5 player his rookie season. To me he has been the best player since 08-09. Before that it was Duncan/Kobe during his first few years of his career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom cody Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 I think Lebron's been the best for a few yrs. now. He led the league in PPG in 2005-2006, so it could be said he was flirting with best player in the league during that yr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sllim Pickens Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 3 hours ago, J-ALL-DAY said: LeBron was not a top 5 player his rookie season. To me he has been the best player since 08-09. Before that it was Duncan/Kobe during his first few years of his career. Perhaps PER wise, but was most top 5 impactful on his team. Turning around that awful Cavs team so quickly showed he was a stud and a top player in the league, just on a bad team. If so, that's the only argument and he was still top 10/15. After that he was top 5 and then top 2/1 the rest of his career. He has been top 2 in EWA since 05-06, top 4 in PER since then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-ALL-DAY Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 1 minute ago, Sllim Pickens said: Perhaps PER wise, but was most top 5 impactful on his team. Turning around that awful Cavs team so quickly showed he was a stud and a top player in the league, just on a bad team. If so, that's the only argument and he was still top 10/15. After that he was top 5 and then top 2/1 the rest of his career. He has been top 2 in EWA since 05-06, top 4 in PER since then. No, that is not the only argument. He simply wasn't a top 5 player his rookie season. He was not better than Kobe/Shaq/Dirk/KG/T-Mac/Kidd/etc. His second season though? That's a different story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
resilient part 2 Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 5 hours ago, Justin4 said: Where do you rank LeBron James each year from his rookie season to last season? My opinion 03-04: Top 25-30 04-05: Top 10 05-06: Top 4 06-07: Top 5 07-08: Top 2 ( Behind Kobe) 08-09: 1 09-10: 1 10-11: 1 11-12: 1 12-13: 1 13-14: 1 14-15: 1 15-16: 1 16-17: 1 17-18: 1 No one welcomes the new guy???? Welcome. I have KD above Lebron in one of those years, 16-17. maybe 1 or 2 more. I know I am in the minority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mox Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 03-04: Top 40 04-05: Top 10 05-06: Top 5ish 06-07: Top 5ish 07-08: Top 3 08-09: 1 09-10: 1 10-11: 1 11-12: 1 12-13: 1 13-14: 1 14-15: 1 15-16: 1 16-17: 1 17-18: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sllim Pickens Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 If we go year by year on his stats/PER, you would have to bounce around more in the later years, still top 5. If its about where his skill level is as a player, there is no doubt he was the best player in the league by year 3, and top 3 his second, and top 10 his first. It was clear watching him. Kobe had the only argument for a while, but even he didn't have the all around game that Lebron had/has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyMossIsBoss Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 It's been #1 for nearly a decade now, but more interesting question would be to rank him each regular season. Is he even top 5 this year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
resilient part 2 Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 12 minutes ago, RandyMossIsBoss said: It's been #1 for nearly a decade now, but more interesting question would be to rank him each regular season. Is he even top 5 this year? Even if he doesn't try his best on defense and Coast a lot you still got to say he's top five easy. Because of his overall impact to his team. And I hate that egomaniac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seminoles1 Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 He certainly hasn't been the best regular season player for the last 4 or 5 years, but if you take his playoff impact into account, he probably still needs to be #1 each of those seasons. Year 1: Top 30 Year 2: Top 6 Year 3: Top 3 Year 4: Top 3 Year 5 through Year 15: #1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
braylon Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 13 hours ago, seminoles1 said: He certainly hasn't been the best regular season player for the last 4 or 5 years, but if you take his playoff impact into account, he probably still needs to be #1 each of those seasons. Year 1: Top 30 Year 2: Top 6 Year 3: Top 3 Year 4: Top 3 Year 5 through Year 15: #1 Pretty much this. Except I honestly don't think Top 30 is high enough for his rookie year, probably something more like Top 20. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mse326 Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 I'd keep him #1 in this recent years because being the best player doesn't mean you had the best season. At no point was there anyone I'd have rather had than him even if a player may have had a better season than him in a given year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
braylon Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 Also, can we just admire the fact that while Lebron is consistently the best regular season player in the league, he's always at the very least top 5 and he does that while giving maybe 70% effort throughout the regular season. You could fault him for coasting if you'd like, but I think he's a genius. He knows the load he will have to carry in the playoffs and he prepares himself for it. Hell, we don't see more than 85%-90% Lebron in most playoff games, because he has to conserve himself that badly. He is something SO SO special. I respect guys who give it their all every night, clearly. That's awesome. But the fact that Lebron is better than a HOF talent like Westbrook, who gives it his all every single night, when coasting through the regular season is just outrageous (and that's obviously just on example). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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