Jlash Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 16 minutes ago, ny92mike said: makes no sense. I'm hoping you're misguided in this. What's the purpose of having a value on the tender? If no one bids on the player you tendered how would you know what to pay them after the RFA period is over? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ny92mike Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 4 minutes ago, Jlash said: If no one bids on the player you tendered how would you know what to pay them after the RFA period is over? You pay the tendered amount so if you offered a 1st round tender on the player you'd pay 3500. MD4L was making it out to be that the pay would remain the same, regardless the tender amount. Meaning if James Bradberry's salary was 700 last year that it would remain the same. instead of the tendered amount of 3500. He also said that there is no number you must target to submit a contract. Again, if the tender amount is 3500, then that is where the bidding should start, not at 500 or whatever number less than that tendered amount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlash Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 1 minute ago, ny92mike said: You pay the tendered amount so if you offered a 1st round tender on the player you'd pay 3500. If I offer a player you placed a first round tender on, I have to offer him a totally new contract. Years and salary determined by the bidder. The owner has the right to match the offer and use the same contract that the bidder offered, or decline and take the pick. If no one offers, you keep him for 1 year at the rounds tender price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlash Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 If you offer 500/year you've now likely just given the owner a great contract on a good player. So it's a balancing game. Offer enough to make them decline and take the pick, but not too much where you're regretting the contract and lost a pick at the same time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ny92mike Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 1 minute ago, Jlash said: If I offer a player you placed a first round tender on, I have to offer him a totally new contract. Years and salary determined by the bidder. The owner has the right to match the offer and use the same contract that the bidder offered, or decline and take the pick. If no one offers, you keep him for 1 year at the rounds tender price. This is what I'm saying. MD4L was saying something completely different. My original question was do you guys want that tender amount added to the team rosters now or later? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoundrel Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 1 minute ago, Jlash said: If you offer 500/year you've now likely just given the owner a great contract on a good player. So it's a balancing game. Offer enough to make them decline and take the pick, but not too much where you're regretting the contract and lost a pick at the same time. I do like this model because we have Dingo in this sim 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MD4L Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 1 minute ago, ny92mike said: This is what I'm saying. MD4L was saying something completely different. My original question was do you guys want that tender amount added to the team rosters now or later? Add them now. Once a tender is applied it cannot be taken back. If someone loses the player, the new salary will be added to the new team or changed by the team that originally placed a tender on a player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MD4L Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 I got the impression I was being coherent, so I like additional critiques to improve the transparency of our dialogue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ny92mike Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 Nevermind, I'll let @SirA1 do the rest of the updates. This is getting more bizzaro by the minute. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlash Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 22 minutes ago, ny92mike said: Nevermind, I'll let @SirA1 do the rest of the updates. This is getting more bizzaro by the minute. It sounds like you had the idea down to me man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlash Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 27 minutes ago, Counselor said: I do like this model because we have Dingo in this sim He's known for trying to "bargain Hunt" in RFA 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pheltzbahr Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 You must bid more than the tender amount per year as per the FA bid up rules, 2 years minimum as an opening bid. The bids can be beat by competing offers by other teams until no one bids up the previous bid for 48 hours. Think this is in the rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlash Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 9 minutes ago, pheltzbahr said: You must bid more than the tender amount per year as per the FA bid up rules, 2 years minimum as an opening bid. The bids can be beat by competing offers by other teams until no one bids up the previous bid for 48 hours. Think this is in the rules. I was looking through the RFA section and didn't see a minimum bid set, maybe I missed it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pheltzbahr Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 6 minutes ago, Jlash said: I was looking through the RFA section and didn't see a minimum bid set, maybe I missed it. They are usually posted on the actual RFA thread when it goes up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirA1 Posted January 17, 2019 Author Share Posted January 17, 2019 1 hour ago, pheltzbahr said: They are usually posted on the actual RFA thread when it goes up. I added it to the Rules document. We used to just cut and paste from the old forum posts. Any bids on RFA players must exceed the tender amount and be a minimum of 2 years. Bids must follow FA rules. New Initial bids aren't allowed within 48 hours of the deadlineAfter bidding completes, the current owner of the player has 48 hours to decide whether they will match the bid or notPick will be for the upcoming draft and if a team owns more than one pick in the round of the tender, the Team's Original pick will be used as compensation. After that, the lowest numbered pick will be used if multiple picks still exist. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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