Hunter2_1 Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 I got into a bit of an argument today. Someone said icing the kicker is not sporting, and it actually doesn't work anyway. What do you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 Looks to have worked yesterday... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter2_1 Posted January 7, 2019 Author Share Posted January 7, 2019 2 minutes ago, LETSGOBROWNIES said: Looks to have worked yesterday... Ja, but then... I reckon keep it, but not sure I'd use it. It's fun anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KellChippy Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 Not unsporting. General sentiment I hear lately is it doesn’t work, and helps the kicker. I think that’s true in most cases. Wouldn’t put much stock into the Parkey kick considering its Cody Parkey and got tipped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 It’s all part of the game imo. Nothing “unsportsmanlike” about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBLIII Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 1 minute ago, Hunter2_1 said: Ja, but then... I reckon keep it, but not sure I'd use it. It's fun anyway. well that stat makes actually sense. Kickers have in their mind that the coach might still call the TO and they don't so they might get confused while kicking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter2_1 Posted January 7, 2019 Author Share Posted January 7, 2019 @SBLIII Yep. And of course there's the cliche that he gets one to 'get his eye in', like a practice swing. If coaches have this data (they will) why are they still calling the TO? Perhaps there's specific kickers they do it to...your Parkey's and Boswell's of the world maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malfatron Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 its not feasible to get rid of timeouts before the snap. also, sometimes it works and sometimes it doesnt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malfatron Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 might as well get rid of disguising blitzes too because the qb might not see it coming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas5737 Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 I think eventually a kicker will stop suddenly after already starting his motion and tear an ACL or something and then they will look into changing it so that the play can't be stopped to ice the kicker once he is set. If nothing like that ever happens I don't see why they would change anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter2_1 Posted January 7, 2019 Author Share Posted January 7, 2019 4 minutes ago, Malfatron said: might as well get rid of disguising blitzes too because the qb might not see it coming Lol, I like that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom cody Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 Option 2 for me, really think it's not needed and really disrupts the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAF-N72EX Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 It's all part of the game. It's not much different than trying to get a defense to jump offsides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malfatron Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 16 minutes ago, tom cody said: Option 2 for me, really think it's not needed and really disrupts the game. what if they need a timeout for a different reason? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyMossIsBoss Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 Part of the game. I'd like some stats, although this would take watching a whole lot of kicks, showing the FG% on icings where the kicker got the initial kick off as opposed to when he doesn't. Whether or not he made the "free kick". The opposing teams exact TO count. Distance. Let's break this down and see if there is any discernible science to this. Maybe I'll do this little project, although it's probably not worth it. Reality is if a pattern was there, it'd be common knowledge IMO. Just from a practical standpoint, from my POV anyway, the optimal icing is if you have multiple TOs you use either 1 or 2 (depending on how many you have to start, hold onto the final TO) and not let them get either kick off... Extend that high pressure moment as long as possible, don't give them any practice shots, and you keep that last TO because in the back of their minds they might be expecting that last TO to come. I'm not entirely convinced it actually makes a difference, these guys are after all are paid millions to do one thing and to have even reached this level means they are pretty mentally tough and not rattled. I'm not even sure they have any awareness as to how many TOs the opposing team has, whether that's deliberate or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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