beardown3231 Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 Just now, malagabears said: Or trade one of our 2020 2nds for Emmanuel Ogba? A second round pick for 4 sacks/season? Huh? No way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dll2000 Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 21 minutes ago, G08 said: Would any of you trade our 3rd this year and one of our 2nds next year to move up and draft Miles Sanders? You can't really trade up anymore. Mack plus 2nd contracts for young stars is going to eat most of cap in next couple of years following this one. Roster will have to be filled in with mostly draft picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugashane Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 1 hour ago, G08 said: Would any of you trade our 3rd this year and one of our 2nds next year to move up and draft Miles Sanders? I'd do Howard and our 3rd, but not a 2nd even by itself. I guess I'm just a bit disenchanted by this RB class. I'm betting I'll like some guys more next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superman(DH23) Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 3 hours ago, dll2000 said: This is something I asked right away too. Is there an explanation somewhere? Not like they couldn't have resigned him. They just dumped a bunch of salary. Few teams let young good pass rushers go entering their prime. I didn't really see any Ravens games last year. The first thought I had when the Pack signed him was Pernell McPhee. At least then it made sense to let HIM go bc they had Tsizzle. They have nobody to rush the passer from the outside right now, he didnt sign an exorbitant contract that would have precluded them from making the other signings they have, and hes home grown talent. That's some serious red flags to me, especially for a playoff team. There are also a long line of Ravens pass rushers who leave and do nothing. Maybe he becomes the exception, but that's not where my money is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dll2000 Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 46 minutes ago, Superman(DH23) said: The first thought I had when the Pack signed him was Pernell McPhee. At least then it made sense to let HIM go bc they had Tsizzle. They have nobody to rush the passer from the outside right now, he didnt sign an exorbitant contract that would have precluded them from making the other signings they have, and hes home grown talent. That's some serious red flags to me, especially for a playoff team. There are also a long line of Ravens pass rushers who leave and do nothing. Maybe he becomes the exception, but that's not where my money is. They are playing next man up with Tyus Bowser and Tim Williams their 2016 2nd and 3rd round picks. Both guys were highly thought of out of college. They must have seen enough from those guys to justify not overpaying for Smith. This is what they do and they are right more than they are wrong in that area. McPhee was 100% right choice to let go. They seem to be able to develop pass rushers from within. They draft at least one every year it seems. They only keep them past free agency if they are studs like Suggs. Means they don't think Smith is a stud. Good news for us, bad news for Green Bay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soulman Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 15 hours ago, malagabears said: Just found this as well. FWIW - this would indicate it's not impossible. Justin Houston Closing in on Decision One of the top players still available in free agency is former Kansas City Chiefs defensive end Justin Houston. Though he is 30 years old, Houston is still a productive player—he had nine sacks in 12 games last season—who was primarily released due to cap concerns. While one might have expected Houston to be off the market early, he's been taking his time with his decision. According to NFL Media's Ian Rapoport, that decision is now down to a handful of teams. "[He] was down to three teams as of last week," Rapoport said on NFL Network. "Still trying to figure out where the right spot is. Basically, since he's made so much money in his career, and because where we are in free agency, he's not really in a rush. Still biding his time, but I know he's down to just a couple finalists here." As Rapoport pointed out, Houston isn't likely to be baited into a snap decision because contract value probably isn't his top priority. This also means it's unlikely a dark horse swoops in and wows him with a significant offer. Houston appears to be looking for the best fit and only a few teams can provide it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soulman Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 15 hours ago, Sugashane said: LMAO..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soulman Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 13 hours ago, Tyty said: It’s ironic af that I’m the one being pessimistic about our free agency movements while you all are satisfied because every time anything negative happens regarding the Bears you guys are all falling apart and I’m making obnoxious jokes throughout to bring light to it. But truth of the matter is I’m kinda bummed how we did in free agency, I was kinda hoping for a game changer/impactful player for the offense and what we ended up with were depth players for the most part and no one that I feel will give us a leap in the right direction. We replaced a good safety with a worse safety, signed a no name receiver, an underwhelming rb, and a return specialist that doesn’t add much to an offense although y’all think his average ypc on 20 carries makes him legendary. I felt like last season our biggest hinderance wasn’t a kicker but a lackluster, underperforming, and overly safe offense. Our defense kept us in games and kept other teams in check while we squandered every single offensive opportunity in the same way our team always has when we have a solid D. We barely noodled our way into enemy territory on the few drives we would a game then would hope Parkey could messiah us through it. With no picks in the draft and all the restructures and cuts we made to make room in free agency I was actually expecting some ballsy signings but not a single one of them knocked my socks off. I very seriously doubt we’ll utilize Cordarelle more efficiently than Belichick did lol. Anyway, even beyond this, the bears need a bigger sense of urgency, stop playing captain cool/captain careful and getting rammed from behind at the last second like we did several times last season. Not gonna win a super bowl unless we’re ruthless. Although I agree with you that we need more scoring and I think Nagy has made it clear that his expectations for improvement for the offense will come largely from within and Pace has backed him on this. I think what we're looking for is another major leap from Trubisky more so than adding a whole lot more talent. 2018 was a year in which we made major additions to offense with ARob, Gabriel, and Burton in FA and Daniels and Miller in the 2nd round of the draft. This year he added the new deal for Massie and a restructure for Long to keep the OL intact then added Davis, Patterson, and Hall to either replace those who departed or add talent and speed we lacked. Patterson may not be a major contributor to the offense as a receiver or ball carrier but he's the best KOR in the NFL and can add scores and better field position. Hall is competition for Gabriel and a hedge against his failure to produce points. Most of these are tweaks but do we need more than that? The impact guys came last year. I'm still looking for an addition at OLB and maybe Houston is it. My instincts tell me no but they've been known to "mis-stinct" before as in we'll never be able to pull of a deal for Mack. If Pace wants to pull out all of the stop and press hard for a SB over the next 2 years Houston is surely a guy I'd be serious about. The offense needs to improve and I believe it will but it's a smothering defense that will win us a SB. JMHO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soulman Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 13 hours ago, Superman(DH23) said: So much about this is clearly false. The offense finished 6th in scoring. Granted a lot of that is bc the defense put them in great positions, but its 6th nonetheless. We had a rookie WR catch 7 TDs, which is outstanding. Tarik Cohen established hes a premier game changing playmaker. We made the big moves last year. Everyone needs to keep in mind there is a reason why these guys end up hitting the open market. Who were the real big names that were available via FA this year, especially on offense. Lev Bell? Yeah no thanks, I'd rather not spend big on a 28 yo rb with a history of injuries and suspensions. The big names that moved this year, just like last year, were mostly via trade. That's how we got Mack, how the Browns got OBJ, and how the Raiders got Brown. It's how Flacco, Keenum, and Tanehill found new teams. You dont question why the Ravens were willing to part with Za Smith, the same year they lose Terrell Suggs and CJ Mosley? The Steelers showed James Connor can do the same things Bell does behind that line. Get used to this being what our FA is like. This is what happens when you draft well. You keep your own guys and you supplement your depth with good players who fit what you want to do. This is what GB did for 20 years. What Pitt has been doing for 40. What NE has done since BB took over. None of this is a bad thing. Great post brother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soulman Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 13 hours ago, dll2000 said: I’m smart. Not like everybody says, like dumb. I’m smart and I want respect! OK Fredo......but first we need to knock you off. Grab your fishin' pole and let's go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soulman Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 12 hours ago, beardown3231 said: Irvin signed with the Panthers Crap......must have wanted to stay in the south where it's warm. One year/$4 mil so he was within reach $$$ wise. What's Pace got up his sleeve? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ty21 Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 11 minutes ago, soulman said: Patterson may not be a major contributor to the offense as a receiver or ball carrier Whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa chiggity check yourself there fella you just blasphemed against every bears forumer there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soulman Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 5 minutes ago, Tyty said: Whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa chiggity check yourself there fella you just blasphemed against every bears forumer there LOL I just think that with Patterson we need to look at the sum total of what can add. He's like a guy on the seasoning shelf. Sprinkle in some speed that makes defenses account for him deep in the passing game and he should do far better with those WR screen than Gabriel could do. He's a big guy. Then add a dash of jet sweep and some carries from RB. And finally a dollop of KOR to finish it off. Skip the parsley garnish. It's a waste of money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ty21 Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 1 minute ago, soulman said: LOL I just think that with Patterson we need to look at the sum total of what can add. He's like a guy on the seasoning shelf. Sprinkle in some speed that makes defenses account for him deep in the passing game and he should do far better with those WR screen than Gabriel could do. He's a big guy. Then add a dash of jet sweep and some carries from RB. And finally a dollop of KOR to finish it off. Skip the parsley garnish. It's a waste of money. That’s genuinely really shortsighted of you. I honestly see him as a 2400 yard receiver this year, and pardon me if I’m out of line, but an 800 yard rusher too. He’s going to go down as the bears all time leading rusher and receiver here, assuming he spends at least 2 years here enriching our offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soulman Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 1 minute ago, Tyty said: That’s genuinely really shortsighted of you. I honestly see him as a 2400 yard receiver this year, and pardon me if I’m out of line, but an 800 yard rusher too. He’s going to go down as the bears all time leading rusher and receiver here, assuming he spends at least 2 years here enriching our offense. Gonna make up for all of what Devin Hester could never do offensively huh? LOL Well at least we didn't have to give him a $40 mil deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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